Another added tidbit:
we have been using CA TNG 3.0 and if you want to use Cisco, plan on writing
custom agents, which translate to crummy support, (because now you are
'customized' )from CA,and we didn't even do the coding, and well, heck,, I
shouldn't get started on them and product scope, reliability, support,
blah blah.
One extremely large customer of ours, just gave them the boot, as well as a
couple of others. This is NOT intended to stir it up, just factual
observations. The political structure of CA is unstable as well. IMHO,
use HP OpenView. I think network folks overlook the amount of
bandwidth that is needed for WAN enterprise agents, the more you monitor,
the more you pay, one way or another. Serious attention must be given to
total cost of ownership: labor, equipment, support, bandwidth (agents),
training etc.
All have a great day.
Kevin McCarty
CCNA CCNP
Computer Sciences Corporation
Defense Sector
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And to add to what William has written ...
The current package we're looking at to manage our network is Computer
Associates Unicenter. At it's core it's nothing more than another SNMP
tool;
however, it will integrate with about every company's software. With it we
can drill through our network to the Cisco device we would like to work on,
click it and CiscoWorks will open for that device. The same is true of Bay
Networks, Cabletron and a host of other manufacturer's products (servers,
etc.) as well.
You might take a look at their product line and HP Openviwe to give you a
direction to go in. Here is the URL to CA's product:
http://www3.ca.com/Solutions/SubSolution.asp?ID=2846
That should be at leat a good 15 minutes worth of reading ;-)
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> Chris,
>
> Let me add to what David has said well. While Active Directory is
Microsoft
> Directory service and is based on industry standard X.500 and LDAP and
> Kerboros. It is SNMP that is the only link between your Microsoft and
Cisco
> devices. Therefore, management at best is monitoring the whole network.
I
> think you will find that programs, such as Ciscoworks, are written
because
> of the nature of business. Every manufacture wants his product to be
> unique. As far as SMS goes, it is capable of detection and monitor any
snmp
> device. The key would be the response to the monitoring. SMS could only
> notify you at certain alert levels. This may be fine for your purposes.
>
> As final thought, consider your purposes and needs for management. I
think
> that a combination of products is currently your best for full
management!
>
> Bill Harrison
> MCSE, CCNP
> Instructor
>
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> David Armstrong
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> Chris,
>
> We've been looking into several network management packages. The answers
all
> seem to be the same. Network management software can find devices via a
> number of methods but all need the hardware vendor's specific management
> software to adequately work with each company's devices. In the case of
> Cisco that would of course be Cisco Works. I don't know yet whether MS's
SMS
> software interfaces with CiscoWorks or not but it would certainly be able
to
> manage it via Active Directory. There are several other companies that
have
> similar software that would integrate with Active Directory as well.
>
> Hope that helps some,
>
> David Armstrong
>
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> > Can Cisco routers and switches be managed at all from with Microsoft
> > Active Directory, or some Active Directory snap-in? I tried looking on
CCO
> > and Microsoft.com but did not see too much on how the two of them
> interact,
> > if at all.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Chris
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