Comments inline

At 11:19 AM 4/9/2002 -0400, Chuck wrote:
>Ah, but there is this little thing called "the standard", and the standard
>requires that it be done the way it is because BGP SHOULD be advertising
>only REACHABLE nets. What would the internet be, if unreachable nets were
>advertised willy nilly? ;->


Sure.. BGP synchronization (particularly with OSPF) hasn't been on the BGP 
standards track for a while.

>I think it was Avi Freeman ( sp? ) who put it so poetically: ( and I am
>paraphrasing ) A BGP route is a promise.

Putting BGP into the your IGP would be a threat

>I haven't researched, but I would wager a guess that the "no synch" option
>was added in a later revision of the BGP standard based on real world
>experience.  It is a concession to human frailty in a protocol that requires
>perfection. It is also the start of the proverbial primrose path that can
>lead you to hell in a handbasket real fast, if you don't understand the
>differences between BGP operation and the behaviour of the other routing
>protocols.

I think synch, beyond OSPF-BGP interaction, is a vendor implementation 
issue, and not actually described in BGPv4 (or v3 for that matter if i 
recall correctly)


>See what happens when you read too much Raymond Chandler? :->
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>""Peter van Oene""  wrote in message
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> > I don't disagree with most of your points, but really think synch should
>be
> > disabled in all cases at all times along with auto summary.  It should be
> > disabled by default and indeed shouldn't even be included as a
>configurable
> > option.
> >
> > At 11:28 AM 4/8/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > >It's not default for the same reason why unicast rpf (antispoofing) is
> > >not default in ISO; because people are stupid, and under poor design, it
> > >could produce very undesirable and hard to troubleshoot results.  In
> > >other words, if you don't know why you are disabling synchronization,
> > >don't do it.
> > >
> > >Take the following scenario:  A multihop iBGP link between routers (A)
> > >and (B) in which a non-bgp IGP router (C) is routing packets between
> > >them.  Both BGP links are advertising full tables to each other, and,
> > >under your suggested default config, would attempt to forward packets to
> > >destinations that router C has no clue about.  Then what does router C
> > >do with these destinations?
> > >
> > >The answer, of course, is to set up a iBGP full mesh, and then to
> > >disable synchronization , and if you are smart, design your network so
> > >that your IGP learns only about downstream routes and set a default
> > >route up to the core of your network.
> > >
> > >Anyway, the point being, sync is enabled by default because you really
> > >should know what you are doing before you disable it.
> > >
> > >On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 10:44, MADMAN wrote:
> > > > I can think one one good reason why you would disable sync, you can't
> > > > redistribute 100K routes into ANY IGP.  Why are you so concerned
about
> > > > disabling sync??  It should be default.
> > > >
> > > >   Dave
> > > >
> > > > Jay wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > BGP Rules of thumb:
> > > > >
> > > > > BGP advertised prefix must also exist in local IGP table.
> > > > > iBGP learned prefix must also exist in local IGP table
> > > > >   -or use #no sync on iBGP learning router, but if you do, you'd
>sure
> > as
> > > > > hell better know why you disabled it.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 09:22, Phil Barker wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Group,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope someone can help out with this as I don4t have
> > > > > > access to my kit at the moment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried to set up my first BGP lab last week.
> > > > > > I configured a full iBGP mesh, three routers connected
> > > > > > in a triangle via serial lines.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I set up (neighbour( statements on each router (Hope
> > > > > > Radia can forgive the extra vowel !!!) and advertised
> > > > > > the networks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I got the BGP table working but nothing was promoted
> > > > > > to the main routing table, and therefore could4nt ping
> > > > > > non directly connected interfaces. I tried various
> > > > > > approaches like putting a default route in and running
> > > > > > an IGP but still no promotion to the main table.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Should this be possible with iBGP ? or is it a matter
> > > > > > of loop avoidance i.e the AS Numbers won4t be
> > > > > > prepended for the case of iBGP peers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Phil.
> > > > > >
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