Sure, there are plenty of companies that would hire a CCIE, but you have to remember, a CCIE has is supposed to have years of experience in large, complex routing and switching setups. A "real" CCIE, or should I say, a CCIE with plenty of experience (i.e., the exact demographic the cert is supposed to appeal to), will have no problem finding work or consulting. Pay varies, but work is out there for senior positions, even here in southern california (as I pleasantly discovered).
The point to take home that has been emphasized many times is the dot.bomb days are over, and you can't secure a 6 figure salary on basis of a CCIE alone. I believe someone in the group said earlier, "you'll get laughed out of a technical interview if you are a CCIE with only couple years of IT experience (or less)." I would agree for the most part. I was actually heading towards my CCIE, but after getting my CCNP, I am content with that for now and and getting more experience (fortunately I am not some new wide-eyed kid in the field and have been doing this awhile). Congrats on your decision to pursue your MBA and I wish you luck. Sean -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ladrach, Daniel E. Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 6:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MBA or CCIE [7:41809] I was considering both options I have a MIS degree from The Ohio State University. After getting my CCNP and working for a large ISP and seeing a co-worker pass the lab and get nothing but a pat on the back from our company; I made the decision to enroll in an MBA program this fall. After carefully reviewing my options, I did not want to put myself in such a nich market. I think you need to ask yourself where can you go with a CCIE? ISP, Consult, work for yourself. I know there are other companies that would hire a CCIE but you probably would not be utalized to your full potential. Also, a MBA does not expire and if you ever want to be a CTO or CIO most likely you are going to need the education. I have debated this same topic with my friends and co-workers and there is no easy answer. I think it is personal preference but I will say a few things about the CCIE, salaries are coming down due to the fact that there are more CCIE's(some are not the experts they should be). The only reason I say this is once you get your CCIE you should be an expert hence Internetworking Expert. I know people may disagree with some of these statements, but I have seen some CCIE candidates that have issues with basic skills. Daniel Ladrach CCNA, CCNP WorldCom > -----Original Message----- > From: Antonio Montana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: OT: MBA or CCIE [7:41809] > > > Hi all, > > Maybe this topic is discussed several times but I still can't > decide wether > to go for the CCIE or to go back to a good business school for MBA. > > I am doing networking for 3 yrs now and can see that it's > getting harder to > find a good. Have all Cisco cert's except of the "lab" and some others > Microsoft, Novell etc. and a Computer Science degree. > The problem is, that here, in europe, some CCIE's are doing > jobs like System > or Network Administration, which is indeed not well paid at > all. It's just > like creating some user logins, assigning and administering > IP addresses and > do some entries or changes on DNS or even Exchange Servers. > > Ok I understand that, it's better than being unemployed. > But is this a CCIE job ?? Really don't think so. > > I don't know when the telco market is going up again, but I > really think > about going to school and getting a management education. > Jobs for MBA's are still there. > > Who knows if and when the market will give back the CCIE's > the recognition > they earn ?!? > > So, should I stop my track towards the CCIE and go to the > "dark side" ?? > > What do you think guys ?? > > cheers > tony Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=41833&t=41809 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]