Thompson Alton wrote: > Your comments are false and you sound very ignorant. > I work with guys who have 20 years experience and to trouble shoot a problem > take months. This is because they don't know how the protocols work. How > much money can a company afford to lose when production is downloading for a > considerable amount of time? That's why as a mangers? we send Engineers on > training to learn about new and merging technologies. And that?s before you > can put or do any upgrades to the production network you must first try it > out in the lab.
An ideal scneario would be to pass the CCNP with production network experience or at least with plenty of lab experience from home/office labs and the Cisco Academies that are popping up all over the country. Moving to the CCIE, the ideal is pretty much production network plus home/office labs. If you're not working with routers and switches that are actually used in a production network, passing the CCIE is not as meaningful as it would be for those who have daily hands-on experience with real design and troubleshooting. I've seen a goodly number of network administrators who are in positions of power, but who don't know even the basics of classful subnetting, VLSM, routing, L2 LAN switching, and VLANs. (Even some telco ATM techs who don't understand the difference between L2/LAN switches vs. VLAN switches, but that's a whole 'nother story in itself). These hands-on guys moved up from the ranks of network operating systems (NOSs), usually Novell, Unix and Windows. I respect their ability to handle a production network but it's a shame they won't listen to the young CCNAs and CCNPs who work for them. They (the old desktop/NOS guys who moved up to network management roles) couldn't even conceive of migrating their RIP networks to OSPF, but with the help of their CCNx/CCDx employees they could really do something good. It's the age-old problem of control and fear of the unknown. -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=44947&t=44611 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]