If you look at Cisco over the last 18 months compared to it's competitors it has done well. It's sales have dropped much less then most other networking companies and they have actually gained market share in all major areas. The major telco's built out way too fast and the growth did not come like they expected. But on the enterprise side companies took it a lot slower. This economy is starting a slow recovery. Next year things will pick up. It will never be like 1999 as you say, but we will get back to the point where there will be plenty of jobs.
A CCIE is still the highest networking cert and the only one that is not a paper cert. We have seen a lot more numbers comming out these days, but Cisco doubled the number of lab seats in San Jose and RTP back in March. Add to that the one day lab and Sat and Sun testing and there are a lot more people taking the test. Cisco keeps track of the passing percent and will adjust the challenge of the lab if necessary. The other thing is we probably will see major changes in the lab before the end of the year. When they get rid of token ring who knows what goodies they will replace it with. It will take a while for the boot camps to adjust their programs to the new topics and the candidates that take the self study route will be searching for ways to cover the new material. There will be a big slow down for a while at that point. I guess my point is I do not see the value of the CCIE going the way of the microsoft certs. Thing will get better next year and the demand for CCIE's will raise. >From: "nrf" >Reply-To: "nrf" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261] >Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 03:08:19 -0400 > >""Gaz"" wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I think that depends on the individual company. > > Our company currently has 6 CCIE's. I was dissuaded from going for CCIE >by > > my company. The reason, although they haven't stated it in so many words >is > > that they would just about double my pay from CCNP, but I would bring >them > > very little more income. > > They would prefer me to go off and do something else that they can >charge > > for, like security. > > I've not heard of any companies asking for CCIE security (yet). A senior > > engineer with security accreditations is almost as sellable to most > > companies and far cheaper to feed and water. > > For a lot of jobs, the same is true for Routing/Switching. Every job our > > company sends a CCIE to that could have been a Senior Engineer, they've >lost > > a bit off their profit margin, and in the current climate where perhaps >the > > jobs aren't rolling in quite so fast, there are obviously greater losses > > having CCIE's sat around on quiet days. > > CCIE is still the target I believe, but not everybody needs them at the > > moment. > > In 6/12 months if things pick up they may be pushing the CCIE again. > > I believe that Cisco's hiccup last year is the only thing that has >devalued > > the CCIE. As Cisco gradually recovers, so will the CCIE....probably..... > >Well, I think that's true. But on the other hand, I think the glory days >of >the CCIE are over. > >Let's face it. We just went through a massive network buildout orgy that >will probably never be repeated again in out lifetime. Several positive >factors went "just right" - the Y2K overhaul, the advent of Netscape and >the >accompanying introduction of the Internet to the masses, and the fears of >old-school companies of getting 'Amazon-ed'. To think that these kinds of >factors will come together again anytime soon is wishful thinking. > >So while yes, I agree that Cisco and the CCIE will probably get better, if >you think we're going to have 1999 all over again, you're just deluding >yourself. The world has changed, and people will simply have to admit >that >when it comes to the value of tech skills, Cisco's best days are in its >past, and people should be looking at other skills if they want to remain >on >the forefront of what is considered valuable. > > > > > > > Gaz > > > > > > > > ""Kris Keen"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Your the 1st person I've heard say the CCIE isnt worth much anymore.. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=45134&t=40261 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
