sure. ok. agreed. OTOH, buggy / unreliable software is the same, no matter whose platform it runs on. A long time ago in a galaxy far away I was able to successfully crash Sun Unix boxes several times through sheer ignorance. one was in the Sun Sys Admin training class I was taking, the rest were Sun boxes that Big Brokerage Firm had installed in the office where I worked. Proof that there ain't no such thing as "foolproof" because this here fool can break just about anything ;->
BTW, you have just ht on the major reason for NOT doing packetized voice. Or maybe just limiting it to toll bypass, while keeping your PBX. Sometimes I think the only real selling point for AVVID is that is "kewl" The biggest selling points for Windows way back when were the screen savers and the games. MCSE = Microsoft Certified Solitaire Expert ""nrf"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Well, this kind of thing cuts both ways. A reseller I know is trying to > sell AVVID and is on dangerous ground precisely because CM is on Windows and > the potential customer has had some very bad experiences with Windows > servers due to reliability issues and so forth. The customer is deciding > whether to go with AVVID or a traditional PBX, and the fact that AVVID is so > Windows-centric is a significant minus, and in fact could be the whole basis > for losing the deal, because the customer has to know that his phone system > is going to always be up without any dithering around. Yes, yes, you can do > things like clustering to improve the reliability of CM, but the simple fact > of the matter is that Windows has a well-founded reputation for > unreliability when compared to UNIX, and when you're talking about phone > systems, unreliability is definitely something that a potential customer > does not want to hear. Not at all. This is why you rarely see any vendors > of enterprise software (like DB's, ERP, CRM, SCM, etc. etc.) that don't > offer a UNIX version - because just like a phone system, these are crucial > applications that just have to reliable. > > ""Chuck"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > for whatever reason, Cisco and Microsoft are partnered for a lot of > things. > > > > Call Manager for *nix??? hahahahahahahahahaha > > > > IIRC the last Cisco management software presentation, just about > everything > > is on NT or Win2K boxes these days. > > > > I believe it's called Market Share - there are far more Microsoft > certified > > folk than *nix certified folk. Try selling AVVID when you also have to > tell > > a customer that he has to hire a *nix capable individual or retrain his > > existing Microsoft capable people. Same for the management platform. same > > for any of the security related software products. > > > > > > > > ""sergei"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Makes sense, - M$ products need it more... > > > > > > > > > DAve Diaz wrote: > > > > > > > Remember cisco have no money just $21 Billion dollars in the bank, so > > no > > > > new hardware for a while, no unix in a security lab that is absurb, > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > >From: "markh" > > > > >Reply-To: "markh" > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >Subject: Re: CCIE Security Lab [7:17848] > > > > >Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 00:33:52 -0500 > > > > > > > > > >really? > > > > >-- > > > > > > > > > > >I have an official statement from Cisco that says that there will > be > > no > > > > > >UNIX, only NT. > > > > > >I was there and it's true. > > > > > > > > > > > >MS > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=49604&t=17848 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
