So, Chuck, was the wrong bandwidth statement problem ?

Sasa Milic wrote:
> 
> You have specified bandwidth 64000, shouldn't it be just 64 ?
> With 64000, router thinks that there is enough bandwidth available,
> and policy-map doesn't do anything, but drops occur later, at
> interface level buffers.
> 
> Chuck's Long Road wrote:
> >
> > ""Steven A. Ridder""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > that's the best command to show the output
> > >
> >
> > CL: unfortunately, as the following output indicates, even when all
packets
> > were being dropped ( apparently ) there was no indication of this.
> >
> > Router_1#sh policy int s 0
> >
> >  Serial0
> >
> >   Service-policy output: 200filter (1289)
> >
> >     Class-map: pingr5 (match-all) (1291/2)
> >       0 packets, 0 bytes
> >       5 minute offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps
> >       Match: ip precedence 5  (1295)
> >        police:
> >         8000 bps, 1500 limit, 1500 extended limit
> >         conformed 0 packets, 0 bytes; action: transmit
> >         exceeded 0 packets, 0 bytes; action: drop
> >         conformed 0 bps, exceed 0 bps violate 0 bps
> >
> >     Class-map: pingr6 (match-all) (1299/3)
> >       876 packets, 73152 bytes
> >       5 minute offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps
> >       Match: ip precedence 6  (1303)
> >       police:
> >         8000 bps, 1500 limit, 1500 extended limit
> >         conformed 60 packets, 7872 bytes; action: transmit
> >         exceeded 0 packets, 0 bytes; action: drop
> >         conformed 0 bps, exceed 0 bps violate 0 bps
> >
> >     Class-map: pingr7 (match-all) (1307/4)
> >       0 packets, 0 bytes
> >       5 minute offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps
> >       Match: ip precedence 7  (1311)
> >       police:
> >         8000 bps, 1500 limit, 1500 extended limit
> >         conformed 0 packets, 0 bytes; action: transmit
> >         exceeded 0 packets, 0 bytes; action: drop
> >         conformed 0 bps, exceed 0 bps violate 0 bps
> >
> >     Class-map: class-default (match-any) (1315/0)
> >       19228 packets, 27705238 bytes
> >       5 minute offered rate 0 bps, drop rate 0 bps
> >       Match: any  (1319)
> > Router_1#
> >
> > > --
> > >
> > > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Chuck's Long Road""  wrote in message
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> > > > > Chuck's Long Road wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm putting in some rack time to review certain QoS features.
> > > > > > Configuration
> > > > > > is not really a problem. MQC makes this really easy :->
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, I am attempting to observe results, and I am finding
> > > > > > that I am
> > > > > > unable to make bad things happen, such as packet drops.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am pinging from three different routers on a token ring to 3
> > > > > > other routers
> > > > > > via a 64K frame relay. The router that bridges the token ring
> > > > > > and frame
> > > > > > networks has the policy configured.
> > > > >
> > > > > You would have to exceed 64 Kbps for drops to occur, wouldn't you?
Do
> > > you
> > > > > have any idea how much bandwidth you're using on the Token Ring
side?
> > > What
> > > > > does show int show for load?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm thinking you'll need to do more than ping. The problem with
> > Cisco's
> > > > ping
> > > > > is that it doesn't let you specify how much time between pings,
> > > sometimes
> > > > > called an interval. The timeout value is for unsucessful pings. But
> > what
> > > > you
> > > > > need is a configurable interval  between the sending of pings,
> > > successful
> > > > or
> > > > > not. A real operating system or real ping tool would let you do
this.
> > > ;-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > CL: I finally was able to get some bad things to happen.
> > > >
> > > > token ring domain---- border router ----- frame relay domain
> > > >
> > > > I just started pinging from both sides, over an extended period of
> time.
> > > To
> > > > judget from the result, given the rudimentary configurations, it
takes
> a
> > > > minute or two for the rate limits to apply. There is an "average"
> > traffic
> > > > rate.
> > > >
> > > > three routers from each domain pinging the other side, packet sizes
> 1500
> > > > bytes,  and I lowered the timeout value to 1 second from the default
> two
> > > > seconds. By the time I added the sixth router's traffic, everybody
> > started
> > > > timing out. It took a minute or two for traffic to start going
through
> > > again
> > > > after I stopped traffic from a router or two. I'll have to look into
> the
> > > > defaults more closely.
> > > >
> > > > There has got to be a better show command than the "show policy-map
> > > > interface etc" for this.
> > > >
> > > > Back to the docs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ping in the MS-DOS prompt on Windows doesn't have this either, at
> > least
> > > > not
> > > > > the version I'm using. But ping under UNIX does, although it may
not
> > let
> > > > you
> > > > > set the interval low enough. Some UNIXes have a -f (flood) option
> that
> > > > will
> > > > > let you really whip the pings out. And a ping utility would let you
> do
> > > > that
> > > > > too. For example, I use iNetTools from WildPackets.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you trying to consume bandwidth just by using router tools or
> > could
> > > > you
> > > > > use a host also? Then there are many more options, of course.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmm, what are some other ways to consume bandwidth by just
> configuring
> > > > > router options. Gazillions of SAPs? Gazillions of AppleTalk
networks
> > > with
> > > > > RTMP? Can you FTP or RCP stuff to and from the routers?
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > > > www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
> > > > > www.priscilla.com
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > class-map match-all pingr6
> > > > > >   match ip precedence 6
> > > > > > class-map match-all pingr7
> > > > > >   match ip precedence 7
> > > > > > class-map match-all pingr5
> > > > > >   match ip precedence 5
> > > > > > !
> > > > > > policy-map 200filter
> > > > > >   class pingr5
> > > > > >      police 8000 1500 1500 conform-action transmit
> > > > > > exceed-action drop
> > > > > >   class pingr6
> > > > > >      police 8000 1500 1500 conform-action transmit
> > > > > > exceed-action drop
> > > > > >   class pingr7
> > > > > >      police 8000 1500 1500 conform-action transmit
> > > > > > exceed-action drop
> > > > > > !
> > > > > > !
> > > > > > interface Serial0
> > > > > >  bandwidth 64000
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ( clockrate on the frame switch is set to 64K )
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  ip address 192.168.50.1 255.255.255.0
> > > > > >  encapsulation frame-relay
> > > > > >  ip ospf priority 100
> > > > > >  service-policy output 200filter
> > > > > >  no fair-queue
> > > > > >  frame-relay map ip 192.168.50.2 102 broadcast nocompress
> > > > > >  frame-relay map ip 192.168.50.3 103 broadcast nocompress
> > > > > >  frame-relay map ip 192.168.50.4 104 broadcast nocompress
> > > > > > !
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm using extended ping, and setting the packet size to 1500,
> > > > > > and the ToS
> > > > > > bit to match the values in the class-maps.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Replies appear to be slow, but nothing is being dropped, as I
> > > > > > would expect.
> > > > > > Even when I throw in traffic from the border router just to
> > > > > > fill up
> > > > > > bandwidth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone got some thoughts on "proof of concept" for policing?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chuck
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
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