OK, sorry, that was mean. :-] 

I'll spell it out instead.

When you use HyperTerminal, you are essentially turning your PC into a
keyboard with a CRT, or what used to be called a Dumb Terminal. The paradigm
for Cisco router management comes from the days before personal computers.
Teletype typewriter-like devices attached to the console port of a mainframe
or minicomputer. Then, an advancement occurred and terminals got Cathode Ray
Tubes (CRTs!) But they were essentially still just typewriters with a video
display. That's what your PC becomes when you use HyperTerminal.

There's some good history at this site which talks about the DEC VT100
terminal:

http://www.cs.utk.edu/~shuford/terminal/dec.html

Whether you use HyperTerminal in serial COM1 or Telnet TCP/IP Winsock mode,
you are esentially still just typing on a typewriter that controls the router.

When you type ping, it works because the Cisco IOS has a ping command. It's
no different that what happens when you type "show run" or those other
commands I mentioned.

Priscilla


Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 wrote:
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> >
> >You can "erase startup" and "reload" in HyperTerminal too. 
> >I highly recommend you try it. Let us know what happens.
> >
> 
> April Fools Day come early or late this year?? ;)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com] 
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Problems w/Hyperterminal?? [7:56619]
> 
> 
> Greg Macaulay wrote:
> > 
> > Stop the presses --
> > 
> > I solved the problem!!!!
> 
> Great!
> 
> > 
> > (1) I needed to have connectivity between the router and my
> LAN.  So I
> > connected the E0 interface to the Cable-Modem Router (10/100).
> > (2) Then I configured the E0 interface to be on the same
> subnet
> > as my LAN.
> > 
> > And much to my "aged" amazement  (and relief!) -- it worked.
> > 
> > BTW -- one can ping in hyperterminal -- from the router to
> the PCs on
> > the LAN.
> > 
> > Cork>ping 192.168.1.101
> 
> How can you be a lawyer and be OK with using such imprecise
> language as
> "ping in HyperTerminal." Please assure me that you understand
> what you're
> really doing when you type characters in HyperTerminal.
> 
> You can "erase startup" and "reload" in HyperTerminal too. I
> highly
> recommend you try it. Let us know what happens.
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> > Type escape sequence to abort.
> > Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.1.101, timeout is 2
> > seconds:
> > !!!!!
> > Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max =
> 1/2/4 ms
> > Cork>ping 192.168.1.103
> > Type escape sequence to abort.
> > Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.1.103, timeout is 2
> > seconds:
> > !!!!!
> > Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max =
> 1/2/4 ms
> > Cork>
> > 
> > Lastly, thanks for your offers of assistance.  I do feel a
> bit stupid
> > in bothering everyone.  But it's been a few months since I
> fired
> > up these
> > routers and I overlooked some basics!! Oh well . . . .
> > 
> > Thanks again -- and I owe you one.
> > 
> > Greg Macaulay
> > Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab
> > Lifetime AARP member
> > Retired Attorney/Law Professor
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:00 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Problems w/Hyperterminal?? [7:56619]
> > >
> > >
> > > Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > How can you ping from a DOS prompt if the destination is
> crossing
> > > > a repeater with a speed mismatch? A FastEthernet-only hub
> won't
> > > > allow comms between
> > > > 10Mb/s devices, so if you wouldn't have any visibility to
> > that
> > > > device,
> > > > whether from a DOS prompt, Hyperterminal, or anything...
> > > >
> > > Good point. If a station can send a packet, such as a ping,
> > it's unlikely
> > > that there are any physical or data-link-layer problems. If
> it can't
> > > receive a packet, it makes sense to look above those
> layers. There
> > are some
> > > unidirectional problems, but they are pretty rare. Some
> protocols,
> > > including STP, deal with the infamous "one-way
> connectivity"
> > > problem,
> > but I bet it
> > > happens pretty rarely.
> > >
> > > I had a new theory about what would cause his symptoms, or
> at
> > least what I
> > > think his symptoms are:
> > >
> > > PC can ping router.
> > > PC can Telnet to router?? (we're not sure if he's Telnetting
> > or not)
> > > Router can't ping PC.
> > > Router can't TFTP a file to the PC.
> > >
> > > Possible explanation: the PC is running a firewall! From my 
> > > knowledge of the default behavior of many personal
> firewalls, this
> > > seems
> > rather likely.
> > >
> > > There could be an access list on the router too that could
> > cause this.
> > >
> > > Gotta run. I promise no more messages on this topic! ;-)
> > >
> > > _______________________________
> > >
> > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > www.troubleshootingnetworks.com
> > > www.priscilla.com
> 
> 




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