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> Thanks.  But this doesn't really answer my question.  I realize
> that area 0 is partitioned.  I'm not looking for an answer to
> "is there a rule that prevents this", but instead, "what breaks
> if ABR_1 were to consider routes learned via a non-area-0 summary
> LSA in its computation of it's routing table?"

CL: sorry to be inflexible on this, but in my mind what you are asking is
"why doesn't OSPF behave in a way that it is not supposed to behave?"



>
> Note, I'm also not asking why ABR_1 should not flood ABR_2's
> summary LSAs into ABR_1's area 0.
>
> So back to the scenario:  all routers in area 1, including
> ABR_1, receive summary LSAs from ABR_2 which contain the routes
> from ABR_2's area 0.

CL: no - becasue no adjacency can be formed between area 1 and area 2
routers. all adjacencies have to be formed between an area's ABR, which is
connected to area zero. this changes if you either 1) unpartition area 0,
with a tunnel or a virtual link or 2) set up a virtual link across either
area 1 or area 2, ( which is probably the same as # 1 )


CL: you have an adjacency between area 1 and the area 0 it conects to, and
area 2 and the area 0 it connects to. you do not get an adjacency between
the area 1 and the area 2 routers.

>
> All non-ABR routers in area 1 will process the information
> injected by ABR_2's summary LSAs.  These routers will install
> these routes into their routing table.  These non-ABR routers
> will not realize there is an area 0 parition and will have
> reachability into both.  (I've not tested this, but believe
> this to be true.)
>
> Since ABR_1 is an ABR with a backbone connection, it's not
> allowed to:
>
> - forward information from ABR_2's summary LSAs into it's area 0.
> - consider any routes found in ABR_2's summary LSAs as candidates
>   for insertion into its routing table.
>
> My question is, what breaks if ABR_1 was to use the information
> found in ABR_2's summary LSA and put these into it's routing
> table?
>
> Note, it is possible for an ABR, which does not have an area 0
> connection (hence it's an ABR between 2 or more non-zero
> areas) to consider and use summary LSAs in it's route
> installation process.   (see Zinin's "Cisco IP Routing",
> page 491; and
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ospf-abr-alt-05.txt)


CL: I don't have the book you refer to. I did a quick read of the draft RFC
in the link above. My quick read is that it looks to me that the authors are
suggesting a reinterpretation of the definition and activity of an ABR to
suit some particular situation that could also be solved other ways. Their
examples do not match yours, so I won't comment further, except to wonder
why it is that some folks want to take the Microsoft attitude - do whatever
you want to don't bother with design. I mean, for goodness sake, if you want
chaos, then set up using EIGRP ;->




>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
> The Long and Winding Road wrote:
> >
> > ""p b""  wrote in message
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> > > Consider the following topology:
> > >
> > >     area_0---ABR_1----area_1-----ABR_2----area_0
> > >
> > > There are two area 0's.
> >
> > CL: you have a partitioned area 0. can't have two area zeros in
> > ospf. to
> > quote from my favorite movie of all time, "There can be only
> > one!!!!"
> >
> >
> >
> > > ABR_1 and ABR_2 will generate
> > > type 3 summary LSAs for the respective area 0s and
> > > flood the information into area_1.   An internal
> > > router in area 1 will see the summary LSAs from ABR_1
> > > and ABR_2, determine the best routes, and then insert
> > > them into it's routing table.
> > >
> > > Now consider ABR_1.  It sees and stores in it's area 1
> > > LSDB the summary LSAs it got from ABR_2.
> > >
> > > The OSPF spec indicates that ABR_1, however, should
> > > not forward this routing information into it's own area 0
> > > connection.  This is done to prevent routing loops.
> > >
> > > My question is this: What is the reason why ABR_1 can
> > > not use the routing information learned via ABR_2's
> > > summary LSA and install these routes into it's own
> > > routing table?
> >
> >
> > CL: there can be only one area zero. them's the rules.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Note, I believe if there was a virtual link between ABR_1
> > > and 2, ABR_1 would learn via ABR_2 the same set of routes via
> > > summary LSAs and would be allowed to enter them into it's
> > > routing table.
> > >
> > > There must be a routing loop issue here, but don't see
> > > it.
> >
> > CL: interarea routing must transit area 0. what you are not
> > seeing is that
> > you have a partitioned area zero, not two area zero's. you have
> > broken ospf,
> > and now you need to repair it.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks




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