BTW, for the record I am personally a big fan of snort.  Snort is what I
use on my own home network. But then I'm a tech geek with limited funds,
so it fits my needs perfectly. ;-)

Regards,
Kent

On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 10:32, Kent Hundley wrote:
> The term "team" was meant to by inclusive of engineers as well as
> sales.  I can assure you I have talked to many competent Cisco
> engineers, some of them who specialize in security, who do in fact
> recommend the Cisco IDS to their large clients.  
> 
> And yes, salespeople will obviously always push their product.
> 
> Regards,
> Kent
> 
> On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 07:15, DeVoe, Charles (PKI) wrote:
> > 2) Has never talked to any of the Cisco teams that manage large global
> > accounts
> > 
> > Of course these are sales people.  Sales people make their livelihood
off of
> > the sales.  So obviously, they will push the product.  
> > 
> > Rule 1.  Never trust a salesperson.
> > Rule 2.  Never Believe a salesperson.
> > Rule 3.  Never forget Rules 1 & 2.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kent Hundley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:39 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Snort versus Cisco IDS [7:62939]
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 00:06, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > > Someone told me in an authoritative voice today that Cisco doesn't
> > recommend
> > > their IDS. They recommend Snort. Is this really true? Isn't Cisco's
IDS a
> > > big part of SAFE?
> > > 
> > 
> > Whomever told you this:
> > 
> > 1) Is extremely naiive (one Cisco engineer told them something and they
> > took it as gospel)
> > 
> > 2) Has never talked to any of the Cisco teams that manage large global
> > accounts
> > 
> > I can tell you for a 100% fact that Cisco recommends their IDS very
> > actively to their large global customers, I'm working on a Fortune 5
> > account right now and the Cisco team is heavily pushing a Cisco IDS
> > deployment.  If one of their engineers recommended snort, the AM would
> > have them bound and gagged and thrown in a very dark basement. ;-)
> > 
> > 
> > > Of course, the person who said this doesn't understand that Cisco is a
> > huge,
> > > chaotic organism, and that saying Cisco does something based on what
one
> > > person does, doesn't make sense.
> > > 
> > > But I'm just curious, what do you all recommend for intrusion
detection?
> > How
> > > do Snort and Cisco IDS compare? I guess Cisco's solution is a bit more
> > > complicated, requiring appliances or IDS cards in a switch and a
console:
> > > 
> > 
> > Cisco IDS is a commercial, fully baked product in the sense that it has
> > a lot of bells and whistles for the end-user market.  Cisco is also
> > developing custom hardware such as blades that slide into a Cat 6500,
> > making for easy deployment and the ability to capture and process
> > traffic at Gigabit speeds.
> > 
> > Snort is much more of a tech geeks solution, although there are a lot of
> > talented people writing code to increase its ease of use such. (things
> > like ACID and Demarc)
> > 
> > The bottom line is that snort will do the job in a lot of environments,
> > but your going to need to have some very technical people to handle the
> > care and feeding of the system.  It is an open source solution and
> > doesn't come with built-in support other than what you get through
> > mailing lists.  The Cisco IDS comes with TAC behind it.  You pay more
> > for more support baked into the process and a large amount of dedicated
> > resources working on your issues. (it's the same old open source vs
> > commercial product argument)
> > 
> > For small environments where funds are very limited or for environments
> > with highly technical but cheap labor (such as universities), snort is
> > probably the better solution.  For large enterprises, Cisco would
> > probably be the better choice.  
> > 
> > Of course, YMMV, a lot depends on the environment, , that's my opinion,
> > take it with a grain of salt, yada, yada, yada, etc. etc. disclaimer,
> > disclaimer...
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Kent




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