The thing that makes SNORT so powerful is the attack rules which are
updated almost daily.  Also, you can not beat the price.  Simply find an
unused PC, install Linux and install Snort.  The software and OS is
free! 

You will need some sort of parsing software to read the snort logs.
Check out ACID (http://acidlab.sourceforge.net/) or SnortSnarf.


Paul Borghese
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Will Gragido
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Not to mention the fact that Cisco Systems bought Okena Software
www.okena.com, last month specifically for their Intrusion Prevention
software.  

SNORT is a great tool, I don't think that anyone would or can argue
that.  I
think that being that it's driven by the open source community it comes
(and
has come since it became the 'SHADOW'), under a great deal of scrutiny;
however, I have yet to see instances where it fails. 

I agree with Kent in regards to Cisco System's proudly recommending
their
solution (which when you look under the hood is really an OEM licensed
version of Entercept's product, hence the purchase of OKENA).
Furthermore,
I can't see ANY Cisco Systems SE staying employed for any amount of time
if
they openly discouraged existing as well as potential clients from
purchasing their solutions.  

Cheers, 

Will Gragido CISSP CCNP CIPTSS CCDA MCP
9450 W. Bryn Mawr Ave.
Suite 325
Rosemont, Il 60018
www.ins.com
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Kent
Hundley
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 3:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Snort versus Cisco IDS [7:62939]

On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 00:06, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> Someone told me in an authoritative voice today that Cisco doesn't
recommend
> their IDS. They recommend Snort. Is this really true? Isn't Cisco's
IDS a
> big part of SAFE?
> 

Whomever told you this:

1) Is extremely naiive (one Cisco engineer told them something and they
took it as gospel)

2) Has never talked to any of the Cisco teams that manage large global
accounts

I can tell you for a 100% fact that Cisco recommends their IDS very
actively to their large global customers, I'm working on a Fortune 5
account right now and the Cisco team is heavily pushing a Cisco IDS
deployment.  If one of their engineers recommended snort, the AM would
have them bound and gagged and thrown in a very dark basement. ;-)


> Of course, the person who said this doesn't understand that Cisco is a
huge,
> chaotic organism, and that saying Cisco does something based on what
one
> person does, doesn't make sense.
> 
> But I'm just curious, what do you all recommend for intrusion
detection?
How
> do Snort and Cisco IDS compare? I guess Cisco's solution is a bit more
> complicated, requiring appliances or IDS cards in a switch and a
console:
> 

Cisco IDS is a commercial, fully baked product in the sense that it has
a lot of bells and whistles for the end-user market.  Cisco is also
developing custom hardware such as blades that slide into a Cat 6500,
making for easy deployment and the ability to capture and process
traffic at Gigabit speeds.

Snort is much more of a tech geeks solution, although there are a lot of
talented people writing code to increase its ease of use such. (things
like ACID and Demarc)

The bottom line is that snort will do the job in a lot of environments,
but your going to need to have some very technical people to handle the
care and feeding of the system.  It is an open source solution and
doesn't come with built-in support other than what you get through
mailing lists.  The Cisco IDS comes with TAC behind it.  You pay more
for more support baked into the process and a large amount of dedicated
resources working on your issues. (it's the same old open source vs
commercial product argument)

For small environments where funds are very limited or for environments
with highly technical but cheap labor (such as universities), snort is
probably the better solution.  For large enterprises, Cisco would
probably be the better choice.  

Of course, YMMV, a lot depends on the environment, , that's my opinion,
take it with a grain of salt, yada, yada, yada, etc. etc. disclaimer,
disclaimer...

Regards,
Kent




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