On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Kevin Downey <redc...@gmail.com> wrote: > I spent a lot of time on a windows netbook writing solutions to euler > project problems notepad++ and just pasting the functions into a repl > running in a console. It worked great.
Yup, and that's just fine _for you_ but you are not the target demographic being discussed :) For folks comfortable with a command line and a simple text editor, the REPL is a very reasonable "first step". I come from a Unix background in the 80's and, like you, I'm perfectly happy with a REPL and vim - but these days I live in Eclipse so, for me, CCW is the best choice (with a live REPL open in Eclipse all the time). I guess the question is: how serious are we about catering to the general developer at large? My experience over the years, dealing with a lot of Windows developers, is what makes me push back on this. I've seen a very large number of experienced developers on Windows who don't know how to do anything on the command line - if it doesn't have a GUI, they won't touch it. So, do we want to help those developers learn Clojure? If our consensus answer as a community is "no", that's fine but I just want us to be clear about that. The Scala community get flak for a widely perceived attitude that says "if you're too dumb to understand the type system, go away and stop bothering us". I hear from a lot of Clojure n00bs who find the focus on the command line (and the focus on Emacs!) to be very off-putting. I'd rather we didn't alienate those folks but I don't know how the Clojure community as a whole feels about that? -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ "Perfection is the enemy of the good." -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en