On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Colin Yates <colin.ya...@gmail.com> wrote: > Getting started should be the smallest set of steps possible; the REPL.
http://try-clojure.org is probably the very simplest step. Nothing to download or install and it has a built in tutorial. And that is the very first step on Nick's suggested page. The second step Nick suggests is a decent tutorial and 4clojure for learning more about solving problems (again, without installing anything). Mark's tutorial does cover the REPL as a first step (although it refers to the richhickey repo and talks about building Clojure from source as an alternative to just using the downloaded JARs - which really needs to be fixed - but it also mentions Leiningen, which is good). The third step on Nick's page is Clooj, followed by Leiningen. Using Leiningen to hide classpath issues and dependency management is a very good thing for Clojure beginners (esp. if they come from a non-Java background). This seems to be the piece causing all the friction here. Perhaps it just needs some additional wording to point people at Clooj if they want a simple, integrated editor that handles Clojure installation etc, and some wording to point people at Leiningen if they want a simple, command line way to experiment with Clojure? Given what we're trying to address here, I think I'd move Mark's tutorial down below the Clooj / Leiningen suggestions since it suffers from some of the same problems we're already trying to address. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ "Perfection is the enemy of the good." -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
