First, the goal of Verily was not the same as Test2. It wasn't intended to unify any existing test libs. It was really just meant to succeed clojure.test in spirit. That's all.
Second, nobody "bullied" me into this decision. Some people asked how Verily improved upon the alternatives, and, try as I might, I couldn't come up with any good answer. That's how I realized that the project was pointless, a waste of time, and was wrought in arrogance. But, whether it really is useful to anyone else, that's not my decision to make. So I'm putting it back up and letting the community be the judge of that. https://github.com/evanescence/verily -- I'll still rename it though, soon. -Steven On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Jay Fields <j...@jayfields.com> wrote: > I've never spoken to Steven in anything that wasn't a public email to this > list, so it wasn't me. I'm not sure who the self-proclaimed project > guardians are, but I just wanted to make sure no one thought I was trying > to "protect" https://github.com/jaycfields/expectations in anyway. > > I don't actually think there's much value in unifying the infrastructure, > but I agree with Meikel that no one has the right to tell you what you can > and cannot work on. My *opinion* is that it's a waste of your (Steven's) > time, but it costs me nothing for you (Steven) to try. If I'm wrong then we > all benefit, which is obviously a good thing. I mean, we're all here > because Rich wanted something better, right? > > That said, if all you want is the ability to run the different styles of > tests side by side, start sending pull requests to align the internals of > the 3. I can't imagine any of Brian, Micah, and I would have a problem with > you tweaking internals that might allow more people to use our software. > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Meikel Brandmeyer (kotarak) > <m...@kotka.de>wrote: > >> >> Am Mittwoch, 24. Juli 2013 08:14:15 UTC+2 schrieb Steven Degutis: >>> >>> It's been brought to my attention that this project is an utter waste of >>> time, brings no real improvement over the existing solutions, and was >>> wrought in complete arrogance. So I've deleted the project. Sorry for >>> wasting a thread on this. >>> >>> >> Wat? Don't let yourself be pushed by self-proclaimed project guardians. >> If you saw any use of your library, then by-all-means you should continue >> it! Even if there are other libraries already, you'll maybe come up with >> the cool new feature. Who knows. The worst that can happen is that you >> learned yourself a lot about doing things. And that is always a win. >> >> From your message I get the impression that the act of "bringing things >> to your attention" was done in a rather non-diplomatic way. Feel free to >> make things public in such a case (maybe the case itself, not the names of >> the people involved). I don't think that this an appropriate behaviour for >> a community like clojure's. Especially since it is not done in public. It >> is absolutely arrogant to judge other people's projects in such a way. The >> other person has no right whatsoever to tell you which projects you should >> pursue and which not. >> >> Meikel >> >> -- >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Clojure" group. >> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Clojure" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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