Hi Richard. Wow, five years off Gleevec - that's wonderful! 

What confuses me though, is this: My doc freaks out when I drop below a 
3-log reduction, which, as I understand it, is equal to 0.1%, yet your doc 
does not get worried until you hit 10%.
So, I am really wondering if I understand the relationship between 
percentage reading and log reduction.
My understanding is: 10% = 1 log, 1% = 2 log, 0.1% = 3 log, etc....
Do I have this totally wrong or are we looking at two doctors with very 
different points of view?



On Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:47:30 PM UTC-4, Richard H wrote:
>
> Sorry  abouy my twisted mind.  I have been off 400mg Gleevec for 5 years 
> and hoping my christmas present will be to continue to 6 years.  I am 
> detectable but the  low.  I had my first scare in April when the reading 
> spiked to 9.475% (Gleevec starts when we see 10%) and the retest dropped 
> back to 4.57%  in June.  Dr. said your guess is as mine as to why, do you 
> want to test in 3, 6, or 8 months. 
>
> Richard H.
>
> On Saturday, July 13, 2013 11:28:58 PM UTC-5, Beth wrote:
>>
>> Dear Richard,
>>  I hope you can go down to 400 too! And as for the steel trap 
>> comment...it's nice to know ther eare some kindred spirits out there...let 
>> us know what the verdict is about lowering your dose! Have a good weekend, 
>> Beth
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard H <richard...@comcast.net>
>> To: cmlhope <cml...@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sat, Jul 13, 2013 10:11 pm
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope]
>>
>> I love to use this statement "I had a mind like a steel trap" when I 
>> speak of my memory loss.  I now  add "and now it make a good strainer".  I 
>> hope tou get a chance to go down to 400mg Gleevec. 
>>
>>  Richard H. 
>>
>> On Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:10:09 AM UTC-5, caselmar wrote: 
>>>
>>> Hi Millie:
>>>  
>>> I've lost a lot of eyelashes and brows, too.  Even have done false 
>>> lashes when I had a wedding to go to.  Part of the problem I see with 
>>> people is that almost everyone knows someone who has had cancer.  Most of 
>>> those patients either had infused chemo and/or radiation.  So they were bad 
>>> but a point came where they recovered and life went on.  For us, at least 
>>> for me, there is no chance in the near future that I'll be off of Gleevec.  
>>> Our problems and side effects often take time to occur, memory loss is one 
>>> for me.
>>>  
>>> I had a mind like a steel trap.  Now, I can remember long term things 
>>> but short term is going faster than a speeding bullet.  People who don't 
>>> get it tell me it is normal at my age to start losing your memory.  I know 
>>> that as you age your memory may worsen but at 61, I don't think so.  Plus, 
>>> I can tell it is a rapid increase in what I am forgetting.
>>>  
>>> My bone pain and muscle cramps are very severe, and naturally the 
>>> fatigue is far worse.  I wonder if one day sooner rather than later I'll be 
>>> in a wheelchair or on a walker.  Sometimes I can't zip up a dress or coat, 
>>> even if it is front zip.  If it is a back zip, forget it.  My husband needs 
>>> to be here to help with that.  I can't hook bracelets or necklaces.  None 
>>> of this is major because I'm so grateful to be alive.  But it is still a 
>>> quality of life issue.  I tend to have bad Gleevec stomach.  I try to stay 
>>> away from foods that trigger it.  But being from Maryland, I love steamed 
>>> crabs.  I eat them but somewhere within a 15 minute drive to my house so I 
>>> can use my own bathroom when the diarrhea hits.  There is no spontaneous 
>>> planning because I always have to look at how far I'll be from home because 
>>> of this.
>>>  
>>> That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about that people don't get.  They 
>>> see me and think, well she works, she looks pretty good for someone with 
>>> leukemia, must not be too bad.  And for the most part, they are correct.  I 
>>> have a positive attitude and feel very blessed to have an illness that is 
>>> manageable.  CML has made me appreciate every single day.
>>>  
>>> Hope your results from the biopsy come in quickly.  I know my bone 
>>> marrow results came in yesterday but my onc didn't call.  He and I have a 
>>> wonderful relationship so I'm assuming that he just didn't get a chance to 
>>> look them over.  He is one of the team doctors for the Baltimore Orioles 
>>> and he may have been at the game yesterday.  Normally I don't worry about 
>>> the results but he has agreed that if they are good, he's going to try and 
>>> take me down from 600 mg of Gleevec to 400 for a trial period of 3 months.  
>>> Hoping that will help with the side effects.  If not, I'll just deal with 
>>> it.
>>>  
>>> Best of luck, have a great weekend, and I think you are a wonderful 
>>> person and terrific friend!
>>>  
>>> Marcie
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>> From: C.M. Houtz <ho...@ptd.net>
>>> To: cmlhope <cml...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Fri, Jul 12, 2013 10:08 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope]
>>>
>>>  *    Hi Marcie*
>>> *            I also wear a wig when I go out, and at times around the 
>>> house, but don't cook with one, and, usually, don't wear one around close 
>>> friends.  My hair is a mass of fuzz and I do have a gal that comes to my 
>>> house and trims it every 6 weeks, but there isn't much to take off...Mostly 
>>> in the back.  My eyelashes are gone, and my eyebrows thinning a lot.  No, 
>>> most people don't understand how we feel, and on here, we can share these 
>>> things.  I have a friend....who told me once that if I'd take long walks it 
>>> would be good for me.  Well, I'm sure that it would, and I would love to be 
>>> doing that, but my legs won't , so I'm stuck in my jazzy (elec chair) most 
>>> of the time.  I still can manage some with a walker, but it's getting to 
>>> the point where I have to have a transport chair...and someone to push it 
>>> when I go out.  That makes it difficult for me to attend things with my 
>>> friends, etc.  My arms don't work well either...about the same as my legs.  
>>> I can't lift my arms, especially the left one without a lot of pain.  I do 
>>> what I can do, but, unless you have these health issues, you don't 
>>> understand that it isn't something that we choose to have.  My friend meant 
>>> well, but just doesn't get it.  Most of my very dear close friends have 
>>> suffered from some type of Cancer.  They understand much better.  I love 
>>> turbans, but have trouble putting them on and keeping them on.  I think 
>>> they look neat.  I wouldn't wear them out, but around the house I would.  
>>> I've never tried to bake with my wig on, but will think about it now that 
>>> you've warned me.  Mostly, I just laugh at how I look as I can't do much 
>>> about it.  Tasigna has left my skin so dry and wearing makeup just doesn't 
>>> work.  Oh well, it is what it is.....right?  We just do the best that we 
>>> can. *
>>> ** 
>>> * My oncologist is going to be upset as I didn't get the results of the 
>>> biopsy yet and I must see him on Monday.  He's such a love, and would hate 
>>> to ever change doctors.  You don't find doctors that call you when they 
>>> need to talk to you (they have their staff do that), but since all of this 
>>> liver  stuff has come up, he calls me often.  I also can call him and 
>>> actually get to talk to him.  I am truly a lucky lady.*
>>> ** 
>>> *You take care of yourself, and I'm so glad that we can share things 
>>> with one another.  *
>>> *Many hugs,*
>>> *Millie*
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