Thanks Marty
Do you take anything for or ointments for rubs?   Thanks. 

My Motto:
Faith and Pills
With Love
🐠18's
Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna 9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib 1/2015
Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center 

> On Dec 22, 2017, at 4:47 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey, we got a Jeanie, and we got a Greenie in here. Life doesn't get better. 
> 
> So Jeanie, you have this pain in you right little finger (we used to call it 
> our (pinkey) Hum right little finger? Well so do i. But not my legs, hands 
> and most of my bones BUT my left elbow and my neck really hurt but especially 
> my left elbow but they have a right to. All of them except my left little 
> finger. Do you know why? Well the little finger has my friend living inside 
> of it. His name is Author Right-es   But the rest were severely broken when i 
> broke my neck in three places along with my left elbow and had these metal 
> plates, screws, nuts and matching bolt put inside of me. Can you imagine that 
> nuts and bolts? Oh at times i have a pain in my butt but that doesn't really 
> count.
> 
> So maybe we should consider that we are getting older or you on TKI's or both 
> of us having Arthritis? 
>  
> Who knows, but the fact that we are still alive are all migrating 
> circumstances, 
> don't you think...👋 We can see we can pee we can hear, well for the most part 
> for me anyway.
> 
> We can walk we can talk can do most everything that we can do. Oh yea I 
> almost forgot we can eat and drink. So let this be a lesson for us, right...
> 
> 18's,
> 
> Marty
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>> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:18 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope 
>> <cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Have you considered Moffitt cancer center. I go there and like it. You go to 
>> the blood center and get your blood checked and then in about an hour they 
>> are faxed over to doctor and you see him. I go every three months. 
>> I was wonder if any of you have your bones aching?  My right little finger 
>> and hand ache and legs hurt sometimes at night. I've been fighting cml for 
>> almost 14 years and never had this. Blood counts are all good. Thanks all.  
>> 
>> My Motto:
>> Faith and Pills
>> With Love
>> 🐠18's
>> Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
>> Started Gleevec 2/2004
>> Started Tasigna 9/2009
>> Started Sprycel 11/2009
>> Started Ponatinib 1/2015
>> Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center 
>> 
>>> On Dec 21, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Listen Greenie,
>>> 
>>> This is what i do because of a promise that i once made to GOD. Let me tell 
>>> you about this.
>>> When i was about to receive my total body radiation almost 30 years ago,
>>> 
>>>  just before they were about to close and lock that radiation chamber door 
>>> i got down on my knees clasped my hands in front of me and prayed to GOD 
>>> asking HIM if he would spare me i would help people that were in my 
>>> situation that i would try to help them. So far i have helped 1,286 people 
>>> in the past 30 years, and wrote my journal about each and every one of 
>>> them. This will never be published because of confidentiality reasons, but 
>>> on occasion i will send some of them parts of my book in order to try and 
>>> help them.
>>> 
>>> Listen i am no saint just a plain human being but someone that once made a 
>>> promise to GOD and i am still here after many many death defying things 
>>> that i have gone trough. And that is why i do what i promised to do. I hope 
>>> that you understand why i do what i do...
>>> 
>>> There is also why i write 18's when ever i end any posts that i make, 
>>> because that is what i believe. 18's to me represents LIFE.
>>> 
>>> If you care to send me your personal email address i would like to send you 
>>> something. Mine is wa2yyx@gmail,com
>>> 
>>> 18's,
>>> 
>>> Marty 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Myvety2k via CMLHope 
>>>> <cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> Marty, I want to thank you for your fast reply, I hear you.  I do have a 
>>>> Nephrologist and he had me get some blood work last month and he seems to 
>>>> be O.K. with the results.  I do have the paper work and will scan it and 
>>>> send it out so you can check it out.  I want to thank you so much, you 
>>>> have made me feel so much better and I will listen to what you wrote me.  
>>>> Again I want to thank you.
>>>>  
>>>> Greenie
>>>>  
>>>> In a message dated 12/21/2017 11:31:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
>>>> wa2...@gmail.com writes:
>>>> Hi Greenie,
>>>> 
>>>> First of all, you mention that you are worried. Why may i ask are you so 
>>>> worried? When people worry about things that they have little or no 
>>>> control over then it not only effects your mind but also your body. I know 
>>>> all about this because that is exactly what i used to do and i learned to 
>>>> direct my mind in more productive ways. Now just try to relax and get 
>>>> yourself going in the right direction. 
>>>> 
>>>> Now you mention about CRI so read this..
>>>> 
>>>> CRI (color rendering index) is a measure of how accurately a light source 
>>>> illuminates objects' true colors. Our LED lights have CRI values of up to 
>>>> 98, indicating that our LED lights are able to produce white light that 
>>>> approximates halogen or incandescent lighting and natural daylight.
>>>> 
>>>> It however has some effect on your kidneys because if they are having 
>>>> problems than it is a very simple thing to just go to a Nephrologist and 
>>>> see what is happening and why.
>>>> 
>>>> As you mentioned the normal Hemoglobin count for women should be from 
>>>> around 13 to 17 however not necessarily for men because men don't have 
>>>> their time of the month as woman do, so men require a bit less of 
>>>> Hemoglobin.  
>>>> 
>>>> Now a count of 10.7 shows that you are enemic and that can from a verity 
>>>> of different things. One being the effects from your TKI being Gleevic 
>>>> which i think may be the cause, now mind you I am not a doctor but someone 
>>>> that does a lot of research into things that i have already been through.
>>>> 
>>>> Another thing would be kidney problems which i kind of doubt because your 
>>>> doctors haven't mentioned it. Do you know what your 
>>>> 
>>>> Levels of creatinine in the blood reflect both the amount of muscle a 
>>>> person has and their amount of kidney function. Most men with normal 
>>>> kidney function have approximately 0.6 to 1.2 milligrams/deciliters 
>>>> (mg/dL) of creatinine. Most women with normal kidney function have between 
>>>> 0.5 to 1.1 mg/dL of creatinine..
>>>> 
>>>> My Creatinine level was 8.2 before i started on my dialysis and i had to 
>>>> go onto dialysis which lasted for four years. Then i was able to get a 
>>>> kidney transplant from a 20 year old deceased  man who was anonymous, and 
>>>> about two weeks later it dropped down to 4.1 and kept dropping to where it 
>>>> is now at .8 and it now stays there. Remember, i have only one kidney 
>>>> while  most other people have two kidneys so i know that having only one 
>>>> kidney is doing very well for me, and no more dialysis for me anymore.
>>>> 
>>>> What you did mention is that your counts are now at   "My white count is 
>>>> find at    5.8).  Iron was 88 (50-212), Iron binding capacity was 281 (250 
>>>> - 450)". Which are quite acceptable and very good for you.
>>>> 
>>>> And speaking about your kidneys let me give you some information. When my 
>>>> kidneys started to fail i noticed that my Hemoglobin also was dropping 
>>>> especially after i began to receive dialysis. They were at 14 then would 
>>>> gradually drop to being 9.9 and that was the magic bullet that triggered 
>>>> that i would be able to start receiving Procrit or Epogin injections which 
>>>> brought my Hemoglobin to usually 11 and it would take about a week. Then a 
>>>> few weeks later another shot and so on. The reason why is that your 
>>>> kidneys produce a *hormone that is sent to your bone marrow that 
>>>> stimulates Red Blood cells into your bone marrow.
>>>> *Erythropoietin (EPO) is a hormone produced by the kidney that promotes 
>>>> the formation of red blood cells by the bone marrow. The kidney cells that 
>>>> make erythropoietin are sensitive to low oxygen levels in the blood that 
>>>> travels through the kidney.
>>>> 
>>>> This is what happened to me so i know what i am talking about. Ever since 
>>>> i received my kidney transplant about two and a half years ago my 
>>>> Hemoglobin has gotten to be around 14
>>>> 
>>>> Now i am not saying that you have any problems with your kidneys but i am 
>>>> puzzled why did your doctor mention about CRI?  As I mentioned why not go 
>>>> to see a Nephrologist . Couldn't hurt. 
>>>> 
>>>> Another suggestion that you have already mentioned, and because you have a 
>>>> smart doctor looking after you why spend over $600 to fly to Chicago when 
>>>> you have loads of very fine doctors in Florida especially in your area?
>>>> 
>>>> Now I have given you a lot of useful information and hopefully it will 
>>>> help you and do you know why? It's because i was there and had to go 
>>>> through all of this and i learned what i had to do, and besides your worth 
>>>> it! Yes you are. Just as was my friend Lottie. She did a lot of research 
>>>> as well in her time which i never forgot... In fact so did Zavie,
>>>> 
>>>> Now finally, since AOL is going out then you already did the right thing 
>>>> by switching over to another (FREE, I love that four letter F letter word) 
>>>>  internet provider. You also may want to get another F word like gmail 
>>>> just in    case as a backup. 
>>>> 
>>>> Please, please Greenie try to stop worrying, just take it one day at a 
>>>> time. You know it will all work out.
>>>> 
>>>> 18's,
>>>> 
>>>> Marty  
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Myvety2k via CMLHope 
>>>>> <cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> To all of my CML friends and care givers.
>>>>>  
>>>>> I took a flight to Chicago Dec. 6th to see my cancer Doctor get blood 
>>>>> work.  A week later she called me to tell me that my Hemoglobin was down 
>>>>> to 10.7 and the norm is 13.0 - 17.5.  My Hematocrit was 32.1% and the 
>>>>> norm is 38.0 - 50 %.
>>>>> She wants me to get a Bone Marrow test here in Florida because the 
>>>>> airfare to Chicago would be $601.00. That's not going to happen.  I'm 
>>>>> also taking Folic acid for the last 6 months (1mg). Folate is 16.7 >=5.9.
>>>>>  
>>>>> She sent my other cancer Doctor down here a fax as to what she wants. I 
>>>>> have and appointment set for Jan. 2 and talk to him about what to do. 
>>>>> (I'm worried). She made a note to him that I also have CRI which may be 
>>>>> Contributory.
>>>>>  
>>>>> So back in 2010 my counts on these two item were Hemoglobin 13.3 and 
>>>>> Hematocrit was 39.0.
>>>>>  
>>>>> So back in 2015 my counts on these two items were Hemoglobin 12.0 and 
>>>>> Hematocrit was 36.1. So the counts are coming down and I think it's from 
>>>>> the Gleevec.
>>>>>  
>>>>> My white count is find at 5.8).  Iron was 88 (50-212), Iron binding 
>>>>> capacity was 281 (250 - 450).
>>>>>  
>>>>> So anyone that may have some answers that may make me feel better just 
>>>>> hop right it and I will very happy to hear from you.
>>>>>  
>>>>> ALSO, I don't know now to do it but AOL is no longer going to be as of 
>>>>> Jan 15. My new email address is  (myvet...@comcast.net) and it's free for 
>>>>> me and much better.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Any feedback would be deeply appreciated. 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Thank you all and have a Very Happy and Safe Holiday.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Greenie for South Fort Myers, FL.
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