Mary, you got that right.
 
greenie
 
 
In a message dated 12/22/2017 4:47:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
wa2...@gmail.com writes:

Hey, we got a Jeanie, and we got a Greenie in here. Life doesn't  get 
better.   


So Jeanie, you have this pain in you right little finger (we used to call  
it our (pinkey) Hum right little finger? Well so do i. But not my legs, 
hands  and most of my bones BUT my left elbow and my neck really hurt but 
especially  my left elbow but they have a right to. All of them except my left 
little  finger. Do you know why? Well the little finger has my friend living 
inside of  it. His name is Author Right-es   But the rest were severely broken 
 when i broke my neck in three places along with my left elbow and had 
these  metal plates, screws, nuts and matching bolt put inside of me. Can you 
imagine  that nuts and bolts? Oh at times i have a pain in my butt but that 
doesn't  really count.


So maybe we should consider that we are getting older or you on TKI's or  
both of us having Arthritis? 
 
Who knows, but the fact that we are still alive are all migrating  
circumstances, 
don't you think...👋 We can see we can pee we can hear, well for the  most 
part for me anyway.


We can walk we can talk can do most everything that we can do. Oh yea I  
almost forgot we can eat and drink. So let this be a lesson for us,  right...


18's,


Marty
























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On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:18 PM, 'Jeanie' via CMLHope  
<cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Hi all,
Have you considered Moffitt  cancer center. I go there and like it. You go 
to the blood center and get  your blood checked and then in about an hour 
they are faxed over to doctor  and you see him. I go every three months. 
I was wonder if any of you  have your bones aching?  My right little finger 
and hand ache and legs  hurt sometimes at night. I've been fighting cml for 
almost 14 years and  never had this. Blood counts are all good. Thanks all. 
 

My  Motto:  
Faith and Pills
With Love
🐠18's
Dx 1/2004 CML Leukemia
Started Gleevec 2/2004
Started Tasigna 9/2009
Started Sprycel 11/2009
Started Ponatinib 1/2015
Doctor Balducci Moffitt Cancer Center 


On Dec 21, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Marty Gartenberg <wa2...@gmail.com>  wrote:




Listen Greenie,  


This is what i do because of a promise that i once made to GOD. Let  me 
tell you about this.
When i was about to receive my total body radiation almost 30 years  ago,


just before they were about to close and lock that radiation  chamber door 
i got down on my knees clasped my hands in front of me and  prayed to GOD 
asking HIM if he would spare me i would help people that  were in my situation 
that i would try to help them. So far i have helped  1,286 people in the 
past 30 years, and wrote my journal about each and  every one of them. This 
will never be published because of confidentiality  reasons, but on occasion i 
will send some of them parts of my book in  order to try and help them.


Listen i am no saint just a plain human being but someone that once  made a 
promise to GOD and i am still here after many many death defying  things 
that i have gone trough. And that is why i do what i promised to  do. I hope 
that you understand why i do what i do...


There is also why i write 18's when ever i end any posts that i make,  
because that is what i believe. 18's to me represents LIFE.


If you care to send me your personal email address i would like to  send 
you something. Mine is wa2yyx@gmail,com


18's,


Marty 


On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Myvety2k via  CMLHope 
<cmlhope@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Marty, I want to thank you for your fast reply, I hear  you.  I do have a 
Nephrologist and he had me get some blood work  last month and he seems to be 
O.K. with the results.  I do have the  paper work and will scan it and send 
it out so you can check it  out.  I want to thank you so much, you have 
made me feel so much  better and I will listen to what you wrote me.  Again I 
want to  thank you.
 
Greenie
 
 

 
In a message dated 12/21/2017 11:31:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
wa2...@gmail.com  writes:

Hi Greenie,  


First of all, you mention that you are worried. Why may i ask are  you so 
worried? When people worry about things that they have little  or no control 
over then it not only effects your mind but also your  body. I know all 
about this because that is exactly what i used to do  and i learned to direct 
my 
mind in more productive ways. Now just try  to relax and get yourself going 
in the right direction. 


Now you mention about CRI so read this..


CRI (color  rendering index) is a measure of how accurately a light source  
illuminates objects' true colors. Our LED lights have CRI values  of up to 
98, indicating that our LED lights are able to produce white  light that 
approximates halogen or incandescent lighting and natural  daylight.



It however has some effect on your kidneys  because if they are having 
problems than it is a very simple thing to  just go to a Nephrologist and see 
what is happening and  why.


As you mentioned the normal Hemoglobin count  for women should be from 
around 13 to 17 however not  necessarily for men because men don't have their 
time of the  month as woman do, so men require a bit less of  Hemoglobin.  


Now a count of 10.7 shows that you are enemic  and that can from a verity 
of different things. One being the effects  from your TKI being Gleevic which 
i think may be the cause, now mind  you I am not a doctor but someone that 
does a lot of research into  things that i have already been through.


Another thing would be kidney problems which i  kind of doubt because your 
doctors haven't mentioned it. Do you know  what your 


Levels of creatinine in  the blood reflect both the amount of muscle a 
person has and their  amount of kidney function. Most men with normal kidney 
function have  approximately 0.6 to 1.2 milligrams/deciliters (mg/dL)  of 
creatinine. Most  women with normal kidney function have between 0.5 to 1.1 
mg/dL 
 of creatinine..


My Creatinine level was 8.2 before i started  on my dialysis and i had to 
go onto dialysis which lasted for four  years. Then i was able to get a 
kidney transplant from a 20 year old  deceased  man who was anonymous, and 
about 
two weeks  later it dropped down to 4.1 and kept dropping to where it is now 
at  .8 and it now stays there. Remember, i have only one kidney  while  
most other people have two kidneys so i know that having  only one kidney is 
doing very well for me, and no more dialysis for me  anymore.


What you did mention is that your counts are  now at   "My  white count is 
find  at 5.8).  Iron was 88 (50-212), Iron binding capacity was 281  (250 - 
450)". Which  are quite acceptable and very good for you.


And speaking about your kidneys let me give  you some information. When my 
kidneys started to fail i noticed that  my Hemoglobin also was dropping 
especially after i began to receive  dialysis. They were at 14 then would 
gradually drop to being 9.9 and  that was the magic bullet that triggered that 
i 
would be able to start  receiving Procrit or Epogin injections which brought 
my Hemoglobin to  usually 11 and it would take about a week. Then a few 
weeks later  another shot and so on. The reason why is that your kidneys 
produce 
a  *hormone that is sent to your bone marrow that stimulates Red Blood  
cells into your bone marrow.
*Erythropoietin (EPO) is a  hormone produced by the kidney that promotes 
the formation of red  blood cells by the bone marrow. The kidney cells that  
make erythropoietin are  sensitive to low oxygen levels in the blood that 
travels through the  kidney.


This is  what happened to me so i know what i am talking about. Ever since 
i  received my kidney transplant about two and a half years ago my  
Hemoglobin has gotten to be around 14


Now i am not saying that you have any problems  with your kidneys but i am 
puzzled why did your doctor mention about  CRI?  As I mentioned why not go 
to see a Nephrologist .  Couldn't hurt. 


Another suggestion that you have already  mentioned, and because you have a 
smart doctor looking after you why  spend over $600 to fly to Chicago when 
you have loads of very fine  doctors in Florida especially in your area?


Now I have given you a lot of useful  information and hopefully it will 
help you and do you know why? It's  because i was there and had to go through 
all of this and i learned  what i had to do, and besides your worth it! Yes 
you are. Just as was  my friend Lottie. She did a lot of research as well in 
her time which  i never forgot... In fact so did Zavie,


Now finally, since AOL is going out then you  already did the right thing 
by switching over to another (FREE, I love  that four letter F letter word)  
internet provider. You also may  want to get another F word like gmail just 
in case as a  backup. 


Please, please Greenie try to stop worrying,  just take it one day at a 
time. You know it will all work  out.


18's,


Marty  


On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 7:10 AM, Myvety2k via  CMLHope 
<cmlhope@googlegroups.com>  wrote:


To all of my CML friends and care  givers.
 
I took a flight to Chicago Dec. 6th to see my  cancer Doctor get blood 
work.  A week later she called me  to tell me that my Hemoglobin was down to 
10.7 and the norm is 13.0  - 17.5.  My Hematocrit was 32.1% and the norm is 
38.0 - 50  %.
She wants me to get a Bone Marrow test here in  Florida because the airfare 
to Chicago would be $601.00. That's not  going to happen.  I'm also taking 
Folic acid for the last  6 months (1mg). Folate is 16.7 >=5.9.
 
She sent my other cancer Doctor down here a fax as  to what she wants. I 
have and appointment set for Jan. 2 and talk to  him about what to do. (I'm 
worried). She made a note to him that I  also have CRI which may be 
Contributory.
 
So back in 2010 my counts on these two item were  Hemoglobin 13.3 and 
Hematocrit was 39.0. 
 
So back in 2015 my counts on these two items were  Hemoglobin 12.0 and 
Hematocrit was 36.1. So the counts are coming  down and I think it's from the 
Gleevec.
 
My white count is find at 5.8).  Iron was 88  (50-212), Iron binding 
capacity was 281 (250 - 450).
 
So anyone that may have some answers that may make  me feel better just hop 
right it and I will very happy to hear from  you.
 
ALSO, I don't know now to do it but AOL is no  longer going to be as of Jan 
15. My new email address is   (myvet...@comcast.net) and it's free for me 
and much  better.
 
Any feedback would be deeply appreciated.   

Thank you all and have a Very Happy and Safe  Holiday.
 
Greenie for South Fort Myers, FL.
 

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