This isn't a bad idea either...maybe get an updated value for insurance as well.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:25:59 -0400


DannyAs my ex will tell you I know even less about women than I know about 
boats but you might consider offering to have the boat re surveyed to assure 
her it is seaworthy.&#65533;
 
Joel Aronson 
On Sep 12, 2012, at 9:22 AM, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:
  This is great stuff!!

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:52:10 -0400

 
The stops on my boat work well and prevent exactly the kind of thing that 
happened to you.
As for your 
wife&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;&#65533;..not sure 
I have a fix for that that doesn&#65533;t involve a lot of money.
If it makes you feel any better, my wife has over the years put up with&#65533; 
- sometimes with good humor and sometimes not &#65533;
A failed fuel pump that I fixed with an outboard squeeze bulb. She had to 
squeeze the whole way home or steer while I squeezed. SQUEEZE HARDER 
DON&#65533;T LET IT GO SOFT was yelled frequently to encourage maintenance of 
fuel pressure J
An engine that died on the last day of our cruise about 10 yards from the 
mooring. This then entailed putting the engine in the dinghy, dragging it up on 
the dock, and using a tree to hoist it into her car. Everything was going great 
until the A4- lacking a front oil seal &#65533; dumped a quart of oil in her 
car. This same cruise involved several days with a heat index around 108-110 
and 100% humidity at night. We tried watching a movie at night in the cockpit 
for more air and 1,000 moths landed on the TV.&#65533; And then the engine was 
in the shop and my basement for 2 months getting fixed.
A fuel fill hose that popped a leak and dumped several gallons of gas into the 
bilge.
A bilge pump that for some reason &#65533; after a decade of good service 
&#65533; decided to siphon INTO the boat and caused my wife to step into almost 
knee-deep water around 0200 when she got up to use the head.
More engine malfunctions than I can count until I finally gave the damn thing 
away and got another one. My wife actually accused me of LIKING these issues 
because one day I was dancing around yelling &#65533;I AM A GOD OF 
ENGINES&#65533; after a successful MacGyver fix of some ignition malfunction. 
&#65533;
Even brand new boats have all kinds of issues. Anyone who buys a used boat or 
airplane has a year or two of getting everything fixed and even then it is 
always an adventure. A lot of cash will get you a new boat, but it isn&#65533;t 
easy to fix the expectation that old boats (and airplanes and antique cars and 
1960s British motorcycles) will run like a Honda Civic.
&#65533;
Cruising- (cruzing) Verb. The act of doing boat repairs in exotic locations
&#65533;
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
&#65533;
From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 8:32 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
&#65533;
Okay so, &#65533;Here is what I think may have happened. &#65533;I think, when 
I let go of the wheel to help furl the headsail, the rudder swung hard to port 
and&#65533;went&#65533;right past the stop. &#65533; This allowed the chain to 
roll right off the&#65533;sprocket. &#65533; When I was playing around with 
trying to get it back, I got the chain to cable fitting to go back over the 
steering shaft and the stop spindle on the rudder post wheel 
to&#65533;slip&#65533;back by the stop on the bulkhead. &#65533;What good is a 
stop if it doesn't stop anything? &#65533;Anyway I guess I should have engaged 
the break or tied off the wheel before I let it go. &#65533;
&#65533;
I'm going to head down tonight and try and remove the cable and chain to order 
a new one. &#65533;I'm also going to get in the water and have a look at the 
prop and shaft as there is some mysterious vibration happening now...I wonder 
if the rudder managed to swing so far as to have bent the brand new $500.00 
shaft I just installed... &#65533;Or maybe it bent the strut...
&#65533;
The wife is pretty disgusted in the whole ordeal. &#65533;she feels we wasted 
and entire summer working on this boat only to have this happen and we're not 
done working on it and we can't go sailing because we need to make ANOTHER 
repair and waste more great weather working on the boat. &#65533; I think she 
has also lost confidence in the boat... &#65533;I tried to take all the blame 
myself saying we didn't do enough shake down sailing and that it was my fault 
for letting go of the wheel and allowing the rudder to swing... &#65533;Her 
take is that we should be able to let go of the wheel in a troubled situation 
and not worry about becoming disabled...I tend to agree. &#65533;As much as we 
both like the wheel I'm considering going back to the tiller...or I need to 
beef up the stops or find a better solution to prevent this from happening 
again. &#65533;I think, knowing what I know now, I will be more careful about 
tying the wheel off. &#65533;Or...I don't know,... &#65533;it is hard to 
believe this has never&#65533;happened&#65533;before...
&#65533;
Any insights are always appreciated... &#65533;Don't worry about hurting my 
delicate&#65533;sensibilities... &#65533;LOL
&#65533;
I have to try and get the boat back in the wife's good graces or I could really 
end up in a Catalina....
&#65533;
Danny
&#65533;
&#65533;


---------- Original Message ----------
From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
 To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:34:53 +0000
Friends don&#65533;t let friends buy Catalina&#65533;s, Hunter&#65533;s, or 
Bayliner&#65533;s. 
&#65533;
MartinCalypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle
From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
&#65533;
I hear ya, Russ... &#65533;I'm not letting beat though...came close and the 
wife is saying..."Now I know why people buy the brand new&#65533;Catalina..." 
&#65533;ewwww
&#65533;
you could have 2 or 3 catalinas for the price of the Sabre that I covet!
&#65533;
If it hadn't been for the rough seas, the fast response of Tow BoatUS and the 
comfort level of my wife...I'd have dropped down below. &#65533;As it turns 
out, if I had removed the cable or pulled the pin in the pedestal I probably 
would have had control again. &#65533;I guess the thing is that, I had ot done 
anything with the steering sytem so I was not at all familiar with it...I 
should have known better.
&#65533;
I just hope my wife forgives the Viking pretty quickly or she'll be pushing 
even harder for the Catlina...At least she isn't get out of boating all 
together! &#65533;if worse comes to worse a catlina is better than no boat at 
all!!! &#65533;LOL
&#65533;
You can't beat the speed though...we were hitting 9 knots with the currents 
with just the head sail before all hell broke loose! &#65533;lets see a catlina 
do that! &#65533;LOL
&#65533;
Danny
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