I have been down there but I'm going down again this afternoon. Everything
seems tight and normal from that perspective. I'll get the chain back on today
and probably have a look at the prop from the water... It I nice day for a
swim here today!!
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:55:50 -0400
Danny, have you been in the bilge to closely look at the entire steering
Rich
On 2012-09-12, at 13:24, "djhaug...@juno.com" <djhaug...@juno.com> wrote:
Everything under there looks perfect. As I was looking down into the
pedestal, with a flashlight, I could see one side of the chain straight down
and the starboard side chin seemed to disappear toward midships....I'm thinking
that is hanging up inside the pedestal...
---------- Original Message ----------
From: dwight veinot <dwightvei...@hfx.eastlink.ca>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:53:18 -0300
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<![endif]-->Danny
The axles in the pulleys for the steering cable below deck are built to fail
when stressed hard as when the rudder goes over hard…I know this from
experience with my Edson system on my 35 MKII…the axles in the pulleys
on my boat have a small circumferential cut that creates the weakest link which
I believe was intentional in the design…nonetheless the stop could also
have been dislodged but if the rudder went hard and fast all the way to the
stop I would suggest you check to make sure the axles in the below deck pulleys
are still good..I broke one axle but with some difficulty I was still able to
steer the boat…that’s when I discovered that using the emergency
tiller on a 35 MKII is not easy and requires removing the wheel…I was
trying the reverse power of my H5 Autoprop propeller for the first time not
realizing how much more power it had than my old 2 blade folding Martec prop
and the boat developed such quick speed the wheel slipped right through my
wife’s hands spinning her sideways and causing her to crack her elbow
pretty hard on the cockpit coaming…painful and bruised but thankfully no
breaks and she was a good sport about it…I manufactured and installed a
new axle in the pulley, adjusted the tension on the cable and have been going
OK ever since that happened about 7 years ago
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On
Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com
Sent: September 12, 2012 9:32 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
Okay so, Here is what I think may have happened. I think, when I let go of
the wheel to help furl the headsail, the rudder swung hard to port and went
right past the stop. This allowed the chain to roll right off the sprocket.
When I was playing around with trying to get it back, I got the chain to cable
fitting to go back over the steering shaft and the stop spindle on the rudder
post wheel to slip back by the stop on the bulkhead. What good is a stop if it
doesn't stop anything? Anyway I guess I should have engaged the break or tied
off the wheel before I let it go.
I'm going to head down tonight and try and remove the cable and chain to order
a new one. I'm also going to get in the water and have a look at the prop and
shaft as there is some mysterious vibration happening now...I wonder if the
rudder managed to swing so far as to have bent the brand new $500.00 shaft I
just installed... Or maybe it bent the strut...
The wife is pretty disgusted in the whole ordeal. she feels we wasted and
entire summer working on this boat only to have this happen and we're not done
working on it and we can't go sailing because we need to make ANOTHER repair
and waste more great weather working on the boat. I think she has also lost
confidence in the boat... I tried to take all the blame myself saying we
didn't do enough shake down sailing and that it was my fault for letting go of
the wheel and allowing the rudder to swing... Her take is that we should be
able to let go of the wheel in a troubled situation and not worry about
becoming disabled...I tend to agree. As much as we both like the wheel I'm
considering going back to the tiller...or I need to beef up the stops or find a
better solution to prevent this from happening again. I think, knowing what I
know now, I will be more careful about tying the wheel off. Or...I don't
know,... it is hard to believe this has never happened before...
Any insights are always appreciated... Don't worry about hurting my delicate
sensibilities... LOL
I have to try and get the boat back in the wife's good graces or I could really
end up in a Catalina....
Danny
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:34:53 +0000
Friends don’t let friends buy Catalina’s, Hunter’s, or
Bayliner’s.
MartinCalypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle
From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On
Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 5:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson chain and wire pedestal failure
I hear ya, Russ... I'm not letting beat though...came close and the wife is
saying..."Now I know why people buy the brand new Catalina..." ewwww
you could have 2 or 3 catalinas for the price of the Sabre that I covet!
If it hadn't been for the rough seas, the fast response of Tow BoatUS and the
comfort level of my wife...I'd have dropped down below. As it turns out, if I
had removed the cable or pulled the pin in the pedestal I probably would have
had control again. I guess the thing is that, I had ot done anything with the
steering sytem so I was not at all familiar with it...I should have known
better.
I just hope my wife forgives the Viking pretty quickly or she'll be pushing
even harder for the Catlina...At least she isn't get out of boating all
together! if worse comes to worse a catlina is better than no boat at all!!!
LOL
You can't beat the speed though...we were hitting 9 knots with the currents
with just the head sail before all hell broke loose! lets see a catlina do
that! LOL
Danny
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