What about water use? Irrigation, municipal, etc? Is that a factor?

Steve
C&C 32
Toronto

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 12:40 AM, Ronald B. Frerker <rbfrer...@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Mostly makes sense.  However, flow through the Chicago canal to
> the Mississippi by way of the  Illinois doesn't ever cause much more than
> flushing a toilet in MPLS.  The Chicago was diverted to the Illinois to
> keep Chicago sewage out of Lake Michigan.  The canal just allows for
> traffic between the river and the lake given the river course change.
> Also, I believe someone mentioned the dredging earlier, but IIRC, flow
> rate would not be as related to river depth as to the drop rate of the
> river bottom and the height of water column of the upper lakes.  If only a
> section was dredged and not the entire river, I would think the flow rate
> would not be significantly different due to dredging.
> I'm not overly familiar with that section of the country, but it does
> sound more like a weather problem than a man-made one.
> Ron
> Wild Cheri
> C&C 30
> STL
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> --- On *Wed, 10/3/12, Alex Giannelia <a...@airsensing.com>* wrote:
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> From: Alex Giannelia <a...@airsensing.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Great Lakes Water Levels
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Date: Wednesday, October 3, 2012, 5:31 PM
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> Stu is right to point this out.  We need to listen and to do something.
> Here is my background based on what I do for a living and who I do it for.
>
> This issue is always going to be a difficult one.  I am in the aerial
> mapping business and we have seen projects come out either because the lake
> levels were too high and caused property damaging erosion (1988-1990 comes
> to mind) that needed to be mapped for?  The IJC. So they are looking at
> this.
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> There are four drain plugs in the system that I know of,
> 1  Jackfish River to divert to hydro power in the James Bay
> 1) Chicago Canal to flood the Mississippi for shipping
> 2) Oswego to flood the Hudson
> 3) St. Lawrence which also drives shipping and hydroelectric
>
> These are supposed to balanced, and if the scientists were running the
> show, they probably would be, but politicians are, so the squeaky hinge
> gets the flow, so the St. Clair River deal just put a kibosh on everything
> because it accelerates the flown to Erie which due to its shallow nature is
> a great evaporator.
>
> No one figured on losing ice the way we have on all the lakes.  I
> photographed Lake Ontario in Feb 1978, the last time it had more than 50%
> cover.
>
> Counting on this evaporation to create more snow is a nice wish, but as
> one guy on this list pointed out, Superior is upwind of everything, so
> don't count on it.
>
> WE ARE THE REASON.  AND WHEN WE EITHER CHANGE OUR WAYS, OR GET POLITICIANS
> TO CHANGE THEM FOR US, THE SITUATION WILL CHANGE FOR THE BETTER, BUT IF WE
> DO NOTHING, THE WATER WILL EVAPORATE AND DUMP DOWNWIND INTO THE OCEAN
> EITHER AS SNOW OR RAIN.
>
> My .02 worth.
>
>
> ALEX GIANNELIA
>
> CC 35-II (1974) WILL BE RENAMED
> ON THE HARD SINCE NOV. 2006 and if the lake levels drop more, may be there
> forever  ;>}
> Toronto Ontario
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