Truethfully David, You're really selling a project boat. Needs sails, a repower, new cusions and paint and teak re-done. Sounds a lot like Lolita when i bought her. Structurally sound and needing everything else. I paid 5k for her and have dumped (cough) another 15k to 20k into her. I'd be lucky to get 20k for her now with new sails, new rebuilt moyer marine atomic 4 with fresh water cooling, new standing rigging, new canvass (most came with the boat in like new condition), 10 year old cushions (give r take)... and much more... bilge pumps, batteries, lots of new wiring, .... I'd say like 10k for your boat. You gotta figure the new owner needs to drop a minimumof $3500 on sails and she is still a fixer upper. if that engine is original and raw water cooled in salt water it may need a rebuild or replacement. Most people want deisel now even though that A4 is very well suited for its intended job. I hope I'm not offending... DannyLolita1973 Viking 33Westport Point, MA
---------- Original Message ---------- From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> To: "kenhea...@gmail.com" <kenhea...@gmail.com>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Hypothetical (not really) question Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:28:15 +0000 A C&C 39 of similar age and similar condition was recently on the market for a long time here in the Seattle area. The price started around $50K then began dropping. The last I heard was it was at $19K OBO. I looked for its listing last week and it has either sold or the listing has been removed. A broker walking the dock last weekend caught me outside the winter cover (I was covered in tyvek and epoxy dust). We briefly discussed old C&Cs and the fix up or sell equation. He said boats in top shape are selling at a reasonable pace. Project boats seemed to him to be the ones taking more than a year to sell. Wet balsa core issues appear to be a major concern for many buyers. Financing older boats with a long list of issues is also sounded difficult. Selling an older boat with a long project/upgrade list may come down to choosing between selling fast (low $) or looking for just the right buyer (long time). Hopefully your friend’s boat is located in an area of North America that has a concentration of C&C owners/interest (NE, Great Lakes, PNW). Pulling a something from the house selling bag of tricks, scrub off the moss, show the boat on a sunny day, bake some cookies down below, and sell the dream not the fiberglass. Martin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ken Heaton Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 4:00 PM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Hypothetical (not really) question My first guess would have been $15,000.00 There are five on Yachtworld asking between $18,500.00 and $19,900.00 so I'm thinking perhaps $17,000.00 now, if you're lucky. I may be optimistic in this market. Sorry. Ken H. On 19 March 2013 19:36, David Paine <paineda...@gmail.com> wrote: I'm trying to value my much loved (by me) 1975 33 Mk 1. Speaking objectively, I'd say that it's structurally sound but shabby -- old cushions, worn surfaces including some teak veneer loss. It has an A4 engine - reliable but requires coddling. Alcohol stove. Old, largely end-of-useful-life sails. Old instruments (ST-50's) that are failing. Charming keel smile. Topsides obviously painted by an amateur (me) quite a few years ago with a brush/roller and 2-part Perfection. Deck in need of a repaint as it was last done in the early 1990's. If you had to guess, what would this thing sell (not list) for if it were marketed by a broker and had to be moved in 12 months or less? Thanks for any guesses! David _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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