ANYBODY looks good on a C&C 40, David. seriously, one of the best things about C&Cs besides their looks, is their forgiving nature. They handle easily, spin on a dime, and are entirely predictable. So as David says, don't worry about size, you'll get used to that quickly. I'd just get the biggest boat *you can afford to maintain*and remember when docking that "slow is pro." Andy C&C 40 Peregrine
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:49 PM, David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com> wrote: > For me it was simple... > > There are what I call "boat sectors". Size bands that incorporates > additional amenities (some call them complexities) and additional costs. > > I sold my (not C & C) 30 looking for the next band of amenities and > commenced looking within that band and within my price range. In my case > the 37-42' size range. In my opinion costs do vary according to the size > within the band but for me it was not appreciable. > > It then became an issue of what boat struck my fancy within that size > band. For me it was love at first sight. > > And although my 30 footer could not sail itself out of a paper bag, I > was still sad to see her go. > > But I love my 40. It is amazing how small they get after you get used to > it. I would not be too afraid of size if that is a primary > consideration. I sail/dock/moor/deliver her single-handed all the time > and she makes me look good. > > David F. Risch > 1981 40-2 > (401) 419-4650 (cell) > > > > From: barro...@mac.com > > Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 13:38:38 -0400 > > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Bigger Boat Question > > > > Last July 3rd, I finished a year or two search of soul and boats and > became an ecstatic if not wary owner of late seventies C&C 33. I wanted a > cruiser with club racing credentials. > > First allow me to add to the boat adages. Boat is not a word but an > abbreviation for Break Out Another Thousand. But the winner is: There is a > yacht, AFRICA, at a nearby marina whose owner claims no connection to that > continent. The yacht's name is an abbreviation for Another Friggin' Repair > I Can't Afford. > > After cruising the usual yacht world magazines' classified ads, ect., a > friend suggested trying Craigslist. There were numerous yachts 40feet and > under between Maine and Maryland, preferring more local options. I am over > 6 feet and was looking for adeq. head room. Missed even looking at a C&C 40 > for 20k. It was sold before I could see her. The first C&C 33 failed a > profession survey, a butyl tape issue among other problems. Two weeks later > another C&C 33 with an atomic 4, sails included main, 135, drifter, storm > jib and two spinnakers, and generally in much better condition popped up. > After repairs I wanted to have a 20% cushion below market. Now I have new > cushions stem to stern, sails needed minor touch-ups, and the rod cold > heads inspected and serviced. The survey recommended an auto bilge pump > which the insurer mandated. Thought I was on target for a late May spash. > But right after the bilge pump went in, the rudder movement became > independent of the wheel. Have to replace the steering hardware on the > rudder.. Very surprised it failed while sitting on the hard. Plenty > adequate bunk space > > Missing kitchen space and shower makes me wonder if a 35 or 36 would be > better long term for cruising. > > Leave margin for off budget repairs. > > Brett Arron > > Serenity > > C&C 33 > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On May 29, 2013, at 0:01, "Dr. Mark Bodnar" <drbod...@accesswave.ca> > wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm still looking at boats, reading emails from this list and learning > lots. Right now I'm sitting back, watching the market, looking to new boats > that come up, and trying to figure out where I want to end up. Maybe some > more experienced listers can offer some thoughts (on or off list). > > > > > > I know that everyone has there own criteria - but I'm trying to figure > out the right boat for me. My Mirage 24 is quite small - 5ft of headroom > (only my 8 yr old can stand up), not enough space to sleep 5 (me and 4 > kids), lacks an enclosed head, no functional galley, noisy and smelly > outboard. > > > I envision wanting to do some more sailing - little further out of the > harbour, some overnights (effectively boat camping with the kids), maybe a > long weekend away with the girlfriend. > > > > > > But we've all heard the cracks "2 best days in a boater life - the day > he/she buys their boat, and the day they sell it", or "A boat is a hole in > the water you pour money into" - not really encouraging. So, why, if they > are so terrible does everyone get 2 foot itis? > > > > > > Feel free to espouse on why did you end up with the boat you have? Do > you wish you stayed smaller/cheaper/simpler? > > > What would you say to yourself if you could go back and offer advice? > Was this the best decision ever? If you could make a change what do you > want? A bigger galley? Bigger cockpit? > > > > > > My temptation was to find a 29-30 foot boat that would work, thinking > that would last me for years with the kids and still be a manageable size > when they are off. Keeping costs reasonable, maintenance manageable and > enough boat to venture further afield. > > > > > > Right now I could buy a local C&C 33 (with and Atomic4), or a local > C&C 30 (diesel), or there are 29's, 30's and 34's within reach - the prices > are similar. I plan on climbing aboard a few different boats to get a feel > for size and space, but I'm trying to figure out what I'm getting into > without having to learn the painfully hard way! I'm leaning towards a > diesel (only because that seems to be common opinion and gas on my current > boat has it's downsides), wheel steering and something fairly stable (so > kids and girlfriend aren't barfing over the side -- which I gather > eliminates the 29's from the list). Price wise I'd like to stay below > $20000. > > > > > > I have the cash set aside to buy the boat, but clearly bigger is not > always better, the maintenance and insidious upkeep costs can add up > quickly. I was able to do a quick sand and bottom paint on my M24 in 2.5 > hrs. Assuming the cost and workload multiply with the displacement I'm > guessing a 30ft (being twice the displacement) would be double the effort, > a 34ft 3 times the work. At what point is it more work and you wish for a > smaller/cheaper boat? > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the advice, > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > --------------------- > > > Dr. Mark Bodnar > > > B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C) > > > Bedford Chiropractic > > > www.bedfordchiro.ca > > > --------------------- > > > > > > There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval. > > > - George Santayana > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > -- Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Ave Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260
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