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On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com>wrote: > I'm not the expert on sanitation system design so you should probably > consult Peggy Hall, Nigel Calder or Don Casey's books. I can share my > design but it's by no means a professional opinion and only worth what > you're paying for it :) > > I'm on the great lakes, no overboard discharge so my requirements are also > different than yours. > > My head is to starboard just aft of the v-birth. The intake seacock is > located just aft of the head under the starboard side settee. The holding > tank is located under the v-birth and is bow shaped. I put all of the hose > connections on TOP of the tank so that they don't leak. There is a pickup > tube inside the holding tank that connects to the pump out hose. I did not > plumb in any siphon breaks because I keep the thru-hull closed at all times > except when the head is being used, which is very rarely. I may install a > siphon break from the head pump to the toilet at some point, maybe this > winter, just for peace of mind. This past summer I was pressed for time > with a cruise planned and not enough time for entire project list. The hose > run from the toilet to the tank is uphill unfortunately so I make sure to > flush a lot of water through at the end of a day's use of the head to push > everything into the tank. My vent is 1" but shrinks to .75" part way along > because I discovered a limitation in the size of hose I can fit through a > part of the bulkhead while doing the project. > > Pretty standard and works very well so far. Tank is 20 gallons and on a > recent ten day cruise with just the two of us we pumped out twice. We put a > lot of water through with each flush. Still new at this washroom on a boat > thing and paranoid. > > Steve, > Suhana, C&C 32 > Toronto > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:22 AM, djhaug...@juno.com > <djhaug...@juno.com>wrote: > >> Steve, >> Great info! got any pictures or diagrams? >> >> I am considering the mock up. I think you're right, it is the only way >> to make sure it will fit. >> >> I'm seeing all kinds of diagrams on line. Some have a loop and some do >> not. One guy claims he had a tank made by ronco in which he had the inlet >> to the tank installed low with an internal stand pipe. This would take the >> place of the loop. He put the tank directly behind the head and ended up >> with very short hose runs. I really like this design. It seems simple, >> eliminates all the hose and vented loop in the head compartment. It looks >> much cleaner, allows for a gravity drain and gets the pump-out fitting on >> the side deck. The one on the boat currently was installed right next the >> the mast and is labeled "water" and whoever installed it hacked it and >> caused spider web cracks in the gel coat that travel several feet. >> >> My biggest concern with this design is whether or not I can get a tank to >> fit. I'd probably have to cut out the base of the storage compartment and >> commandeer that space. So, this is starting to sound like more of a >> project than I want it to be... I could use the same location as the >> existing bladder but, then these is no real way to empty the tank without >> another pump that I can think of. Then the cost goes up and the system >> becomes way more complex... >> >> Here is a diagram of what I was thinking of... >> http://sdrv.ms/18Gs2FG >> >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. >> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:33:31 -0400 >> >> My original tank was made by Kracor. I just went through this exercise >> last season. The kracor tank for my boat is still available from Kracor but >> they wanted $700 plus shipping .. and shipping to Canada would have been >> over $100. Ok. Next option? >> >> I had removed the old stainless holding tank (some PO had replaced the >> original kracor with SS) because it was leaking when I got the boat. Gross. >> First job I did on the new boat. Gross. >> >> Anyway, plastic-mart, yup .. I found a 20 gallon holding tank that fit in >> the bow perfectly! >> Total broke down like this: >> Order Items >> --------------------------- >> Qty: 1 - �20 Gallon RV Waste�Holding�Tank - (S-H2020-B (bow)) Price >> Each: $200.99 >> Build a Tank - I will submit a technical drawing with fitting locations >> Qty: 1 - �Holding�Tank Pump-out Kit - (DT-30) Price Each: $47.99 >> --------------------------- >> 2 Items >> >> Subtotal: $248.98 >> Tax: $24.30 >> Shipping: $54.74 >> Total: $328.02 >> >> >> The $700 price for the kracor was just the tank, no fittings etc. I'm >> very happy with the plastic-mart tank and the service was excellent. >> >> I took measurements from several of the online tanks that I thought would >> fit and then mocked up the tanks with cardboard and then checked for fit on >> the boat. I'm glad I did this it worked out perfectly. Do consider mocking >> up a cardboard tank if you have ANY doubt about fit. >> >> Good luck, it's a dirty job. >> >> Steve >> Suhana, C&C 32 >> Toronto >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 6:59 AM, djhaug...@juno.com >> <djhaug...@juno.com>wrote: >> >>> I'm not really sure what the banana would do... �Lol >>> >>> I have thought about the porta potty and then thought the composting >>> toilet would have been a better idea. �I'm still not completely convinced >>> that it isn't. �It is an easy install and for the amount of time we need >>> it, it may well be a good solution. �However, it grossed out the admiral. >>> �So, I'm on to this solution of a good holding tank design. >>> >>> >>> T-Mobile. America�s First Nationwide 4G Network >>> >>> ----- Reply message ----- >>> From: "bobmor99 ." <bobmo...@gmail.com> >>> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> Subject: Stus-List New Head and holding tank system. >>> Date: Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:51 pm >>> >>> >>> I'm mainly a daysailor who has so far avoided the poo issue. If I were >>> to forgo my very comfortable bed and spend a night aboard Ox, I would first >>> try to address the poo problem at the source - with bananas. Beyond that, >>> I'd go Porta Potti and deal with it. >>> Bob M >>> Ox 33-1 >>> Jax, FL >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 11:27 AM, djhaug...@juno.com <djhaug...@juno.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Okay guys, >>>> � >>>> I'm planning a new waste system. �I'm going with the Raritan PHC head >>>> and a new holding tank. �I currently have a very old Jabsco head and a >>>> bladder holding tank. �I really don't like the bladder. �It has worked okay >>>> but, one day it will fail and it will be disgusting! �I just want rid of >>>> it... >>>> � >>>> I'm looking for ideas on the design. �i.e. �Where to install the tank >>>> and how to pipe it. �I've been reading and I was thinking to try and >>>> install about a 16-18 gallon tank, that conforms to the hull, behind the >>>> head. �However, after a closer look on Saturday, I'm not sure there is >>>> enough room there. �I was kind of hoping to install it there in order to >>>> pipe up a gravity drain for when I'm in an area where that is possible. >>>> �This would also keep the hose runs very short and I could easily vent and >>>> pipe the pump-out fitting in the side deck above. >>>> � >>>> Of course that would have the need of piping up hill to get into the >>>> tank and make it a bit harder to clear the waste from the hose with every >>>> flush. �Then I heard it might be better to have the waste run downhill to >>>> the tank. �That would create the need of pumping overboard if I were in an >>>> area that allowed it and the need of another pump. � >>>> � >>>> I'm not exactly sure how the pump-out system works when having it done >>>> at a pump-out station. �Is it a fitting that attaches to the deck fitting >>>> and sucks it up the hose or, do they run a smaller hose down into the tank >>>> and suck it directly out with their hose? >>>> � >>>> Anyway, �As always, any and all advice, insights and colorful comments >>>> are appreciated! >>>> � >>>> Danny >>>> Lolita >>>> 1973 Viking 33 >>>> Westport Point, MA >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >
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