Dennis, Like your idea. I moved my winches from a flat spot to a curved surface on the cabintop, so I epoxied 1/4" think fiberglass plates to the cabintop to provide a flat mounting boss for the winches. I filleted the edges and painted the whole so it looks factory. Underneath there are 1/4" aluminum backing plates. I waxed them heavily before buttering them w epoxy to the cabin ceiling, and thru boltng the winches.
Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md ----- Original Message ----- From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "dwight" <dwight...@gmail.com> Cc: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 8:17:14 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch for sale? Dwight, I upgraded my cabin top winches from Barlow 10's to Barient 22's. That's quite an increase in power ratio. We race so we're cranking a lot of tension on the genoa halyard. The first time we REALLY tensioned the genoa halyard, the cabin top deformed and creaked. The winch tilted forward slightly. I made 1/4 inch thick plates of roving and epoxied them under the cabin top. The plates extend forward of the winches for a couple inches to spread the load. They must be epoxied because a simple backing plate would just separate from the underdecking forward of the winches. Now the deck is strengthened, solid and doesn't deform when one of my gorilla crew members decides to grind the heck out of the genoa halyard. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 7:48 PM, dwight < dwight...@gmail.com > wrote: I replaced my cabin top single speed Barient 10 main halyard winch with a Barient 18, 2 speed that I had lying around the garage from days gone by…I did not consider strengthening the mounting area because I figured the loads would essentially be the same… the cabin top where the winch is mounted on the 35 MKII is quite thick and soild GRP. I do not expect any strength related issues from the winch change…the Barient 18 two speed seemed to fit the size of the boat better but the Barient 10 actually did the job quite well…I would not have made the change if not for having a perfectly good winch just lying around doing nothing special From: CnC-List [mailto: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: June 20, 2014 7:54 PM To: Stevan Plavsa; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Winch for sale? Steve, If memory serves me, Barients and Barlow winches are rated in pounds. So, a Barient 18 would handle 1800 pounds of load. Modern winches are numbered by power ratio (with 10 inch handle). So to find an equivalent winch, determine the power ratio of your winch and look for the Lewmar, Harken, etc. that best matches. Also look at the base diameter. You probably want to cover the footprint of the old winch. If you're replacing a cabin top winch with a more powerful winch, you may need to strengthen the mounting area. This is NOT as simple as just installing a backing plate. Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville , LA Sent from my iPhone On Jun 20, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: <blockquote> Good timing. I have a related question, what would be the equivalent in an Anderson or other from current manufacturers? Is there a guide somewhere to sizing winches? My main is sheeted using a Barient 18 and I'de like to replace it with an ST. I have a pair of chrome (SS?) Barient 28s if anyone is interested. Thanks, Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: I have most of one; I think Barient 19 self tailer. The boat yard was servicing it this spring and dropped part of the line stripper in the water. As we had agreed a launch date and the part needed to come from Australia they gave me a new winch at cost / free installation. I can look up the # and the missing part when we're back home Monday (we're just heading over to Port Jefferson for the w/e) if you are interested. Thanks, Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford , CT On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: <blockquote> Looking to replace my barient 18 (6.7:1, 24:1) cabin top with a self tailer. Of similar power ratio. Does anyone have one they would like to sell? 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