Graham,
Your thoughts would appreciated on start up draw. Prior owner
installed in port Lazarette. He is particular guy, all looks well
done, but he told me about current draw and starting engine to get it
going. After its running seems to do fine off twin house batteries.
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Pentwater, Mi
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On Saturday, February 6, 2016 Graham Collins via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
The Espar has an air intake hose, so provided the end of the hose is
clear of any fumes you are good to go. You could connect that through
'to the main cabin if you wanted for enhanced piece of mind. If you
have flammable vapor in your main cabin then all bets are off...
And these things are pretty miserly, I might go through a gallon or
two while working on the boat in the winter. So a tiny fuel tank
would be adequate.
I'm surprised at Bill's comment about startup draw, I run mine off
batteries all the time and have never had an issue.
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11
On 2016-02-06 1:45 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote:
I'm reading the marine installation manual
<http://www.esparofmichigan.com/techsupport/pdfs/Marine%20installations/Airtronic%20marine_installation_manual.pdf>
and have some questions:
- Under safety it reads: "The position of the combustion air must
not allow exhaust fumes or flammable vapour to be drawn in". I
have a gasoline tank in my engine compartment. Does this preclude
me from installing one of these?
- Can anyone recommend a suitable fuel tank? I'de like something
small that I can top off from a jerry can, so I can secure it into
place in the lazarette. 5 gallons maybe? What are others using if
using a separate tank?
Thanks,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Stevan Plavsa
<stevanpla...@gmail.com <mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Russ,
I figure with the newport, the tank is inside the cabin
(somewhere behind the bulkhead I would imagine, hanging locker
on my boat likely). With the espar/webasto, it's in the engine
compartment. Also with the newport, this is pretty much how i
have to mount it:
http://www.thechandleryonline.com/images/productimages/thumbs/153_NewportHeaterInstalled.jpg
Starboard I have a dinette and of course the mast. Port side
isn't optimal either. Now that I'm thinking about the tank
actually, and the venting, I'm not really sure where I'de
locate a tank for the newport.
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Hi Steve,
I should have listed install location in the "Cons:" list
of the Newport heater. It can be tricky.
The link I sent is for Newport diesel bulkhead unit. The
D2 has a huge advantage on heat output on low settings,
not to be overlooked. The Admiral & I are a big fan of
radiant heat, also not to be overlooked.
Diesel is the fuel for both heaters and tank location with
proper venting is the same for both, so diesel odour is a
wash, so to speak. The tank can be almost anywhere for
either unit and if elevation is such that gravity feed is
not going to work for the bulkhead heater then you get a
little impulse pump similar to what the Espar uses. I
would see about putting the tank in the cockpit combing
area, that's high enough and easy to fit a deck fill to
keep everything outside. Either heater would like a 2 - 4
gallon tank since you're looking at up to 1 gallon a day
use in cold conditions maybe a bit less for the D2.
On the 40' wooden boat I'm fitting out for retirement
cruising I will have both types of heaters so I won't need
to choose which one is best. :)
Cheers, Russ
/Sweet /35 mk-1
Vancouver Island
At 03:24 PM 05/02/2016, you wrote:
Thanks for the helpful replies, all.
Russ, I really love the idea of the newport heaters,
to be honest, I like the idea of solid fuel the most.
A proper wood fire is one of my favourite things. But
the only units worth getting are expensive wood stove
types, which are super nice, but I can't justify the
expense and they have drawbacks on a boat. The espar
is appealing because it's out of the way. The problem
for me with the diesel newport is the fuel. I have an
A4 powered boat and one thing I really like about my
boat is that it doesn't smell like diesel! The
bulkhead diesel heater would necessitate a gravity
tank somewhere inside and I'm not sure where I'de have
space, maybe in the hanging locker. I'm concerned
about the diesel smell. Most of what I've read about
them is good however and to your point, maybe more
heat than the D2, less money for sure. It's still an
option, will my boat smell like diesel?Â
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Burton via
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
How much fuel does the Espar burn an hour? I use a
propane tent heater the warms the cabin for 6 hrs
on a small canister, but it's not dry heat. It
takes the chill off, but doesn't dry the inside on
a foggy Maine evening.Â
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
Andrew Burton
PO Box 632
Newport, RIÂ
USA 02840
+401 965Â 5260
On Feb 5, 2016, at 17:29, William Walker via
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Steve,
 I have an espar installed by po, no
problems in five years. But, does have
significant current draw at start up. I
need to start engine to fire up unless on
shore power. After it gets going no
problem. Outlet in main cabin, v berthÂ
and head.Â
Bill Walker
Pentwater Mi
CnCÂ 36
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On Friday, February 5, 2016 Stevan Plavsa
via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi All,
I'm starting to look at the Espar and
Webasto units. Is anyone running one on a
32? There's a good price jump from the
Espar D2 to the D4. The literature
indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of
boat, so it sounds like I need the D4 :(
My use is Georgian Bay, just want to
extend the season, not living aboard in
the winter. The boat is two hours away so
there will be "maintenance" trips in the
spring and fall which means sleeping
aboard, it can get quite cold up there.Â
I have to keep the temps warm for the boat
parrot who'll be living aboard with us
while we cruise. We're planning three
weeks in August this year so it shouldn't
be too much of an issue but it gets cold
up there at night, even in August. I
imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer
nights but I have ideas about maybe
cruising the North Channel when the fall
colours are out. I don't want to limit
myself. At the same time, I don't want to
spend money that could go elsewhere.Â
The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead
heaters are pretty but I hear they don't
make quite enough heat. I'm leaning this
way for the cost, but don't want to be
disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and
Webastos are best.Â
I'de be doing the installation myself in
any case so am eager to hear from others
who have gone through it.Â
Thanks,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto
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