You will have to use a guard over it to prevent snags. I have one if you want pics.
That's a great fireplace with a blower! Bob Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer > On Feb 9, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > That vent looks like a wicked line snagger! > >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:32 AM Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> Electric fuel pump switch. >> Brilliant! >> >> Thanks Joe! >> I've decided on the Newport Diesel bulkhead job. It's going to end up >> looking something like this (thought the heater in the pic is the propane >> version): >> >> http://www.thechandleryonline.com/images/productimages/thumbs/153_NewportHeaterInstalled.jpg >> with a day tank up and behind in the hanging locker. >> >> Steve >> Suhana, C&C 32 >> Toronto >> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List >>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> I would think twice, three times, and four times before adding any kind of >>> combustion heater to a gasoline powered boat. Not only can the heater >>> itself suck gasoline fumes into itself, any of the associated controls and >>> fans might or might not be ignition protected. I know, like every other C&C >>> ever made with an Atomic 4, I cook below with an open flame, but that is a >>> bit different. Most of us would not start the stove if we smelled gasoline >>> fumes and most of us are not leaving the stove run all night while we sleep. >>> >>> If I were to do this, I would start by having the heater well away from the >>> engine and mounted as high as possible. Make sure the heater is about the >>> LAST place in the boat gas fumes would end up. >>> >>> Second step would be to install a gasoline fume detector and make sure it >>> is on whenever the heater is on. >>> >>> Third step is do rig your engine to run the gas out of the carb at >>> shutdown. When I am done with the engine for the day I switch off my >>> electric fuel pump and let the engine run the gas out of the carb and line. >>> This prevents the issue of a stuck needle-valve slowly filling the carb >>> overnight and dispersing fumes. A side benefit is the carb lasts much much >>> longer before it needs cleaning. >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> Coquina >>> >>> C&C 35 MK I >>> >>> >>> >>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Graham >>> Collins via CnC-List >>> Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 19:23 >>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >>> Cc: Graham Collins >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel Heaters and installation >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Bill >>> >>> >>> It might be worth contacting Espar about it, I don't think that should be >>> running like that. The D5 I'm running is a fair sized unit, and startup >>> has never been a big power hit. >>> >>> Graham Collins >>> Secret Plans >>> C&C 35-III #11 >>> On 2016-02-06 5:17 PM, William Walker via CnC-List wrote: >>> >>> Graham, >>> Your thoughts would appreciated on start up draw. Prior owner installed >>> in port Lazarette. He is particular guy, all looks well done, but he told >>> me about current draw and starting engine to get it going. After its >>> running seems to do fine off twin house batteries. >>> Bill Walker >>> CnC 36 >>> Pentwater, Mi >>> >>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, February 6, 2016 Graham Collins via CnC-List >>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> The Espar has an air intake hose, so provided the end of the hose is clear >>> of any fumes you are good to go. You could connect that through 'to the >>> main cabin if you wanted for enhanced piece of mind. If you have flammable >>> vapor in your main cabin then all bets are off... >>> >>> And these things are pretty miserly, I might go through a gallon or two >>> while working on the boat in the winter. So a tiny fuel tank would be >>> adequate. >>> >>> I'm surprised at Bill's comment about startup draw, I run mine off >>> batteries all the time and have never had an issue. >>> Graham Collins >>> Secret Plans >>> C&C 35-III #11 >>> On 2016-02-06 1:45 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote: >>> >>> I'm reading the marine installation manual and have some questions: >>> >>> >>> >>> - Under safety it reads: "The position of the combustion air must not allow >>> exhaust fumes or flammable vapour to be drawn in". I have a gasoline tank >>> in my engine compartment. Does this preclude me from installing one of >>> these? >>> >>> >>> >>> - Can anyone recommend a suitable fuel tank? I'de like something small that >>> I can top off from a jerry can, so I can secure it into place in the >>> lazarette. 5 gallons maybe? What are others using if using a separate tank? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> Suhana, C&C 32 >>> >>> Toronto >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:11 PM, Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Russ, >>> >>> >>> >>> I figure with the newport, the tank is inside the cabin (somewhere behind >>> the bulkhead I would imagine, hanging locker on my boat likely). With the >>> espar/webasto, it's in the engine compartment. Also with the newport, this >>> is pretty much how i have to mount it: >>> >>> http://www.thechandleryonline.com/images/productimages/thumbs/153_NewportHeaterInstalled.jpg >>> >>> >>> >>> Starboard I have a dinette and of course the mast. Port side isn't optimal >>> either. Now that I'm thinking about the tank actually, and the venting, I'm >>> not really sure where I'de locate a tank for the newport. >>> >>> >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> Suhana, C&C 32 >>> >>> Toronto >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List >>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Steve, >>> >>> I should have listed install location in the "Cons:" list of the Newport >>> heater. It can be tricky. >>> >>> The link I sent is for Newport diesel bulkhead unit. The D2 has a huge >>> advantage on heat output on low settings, not to be overlooked. The Admiral >>> & I are a big fan of radiant heat, also not to be overlooked. >>> >>> Diesel is the fuel for both heaters and tank location with proper venting >>> is the same for both, so diesel odour is a wash, so to speak. The tank can >>> be almost anywhere for either unit and if elevation is such that gravity >>> feed is not going to work for the bulkhead heater then you get a little >>> impulse pump similar to what the Espar uses. I would see about putting the >>> tank in the cockpit combing area, that's high enough and easy to fit a deck >>> fill to keep everything outside. Either heater would like a 2 - 4 gallon >>> tank since you're looking at up to 1 gallon a day use in cold conditions >>> maybe a bit less for the D2. >>> >>> On the 40' wooden boat I'm fitting out for retirement cruising I will have >>> both types of heaters so I won't need to choose which one is best. :) >>> >>> Cheers, Russ >>> Sweet 35 mk-1 >>> Vancouver Island >>> >>> >>> At 03:24 PM 05/02/2016, you wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the helpful replies, all. >>> >>> Russ, I really love the idea of the newport heaters, to be honest, I like >>> the idea of solid fuel the most. A proper wood fire is one of my favourite >>> things. But the only units worth getting are expensive wood stove types, >>> which are super nice, but I can't justify the expense and they have >>> drawbacks on a boat. The espar is appealing because it's out of the way. >>> The problem for me with the diesel newport is the fuel. I have an A4 >>> powered boat and one thing I really like about my boat is that it doesn't >>> smell like diesel! The bulkhead diesel heater would necessitate a gravity >>> tank somewhere inside and I'm not sure where I'de have space, maybe in the >>> hanging locker. I'm concerned about the diesel smell. Most of what I've >>> read about them is good however and to your point, maybe more heat than the >>> D2, less money for sure. It's still an option, will my boat smell like >>> diesel? >>> >>> Steve >>> Suhana, C&C 32 >>> Toronto >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List >>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> How much fuel does the Espar burn an hour? I use a propane tent heater the >>> warms the cabin for 6 hrs on a small canister, but it's not dry heat. It >>> takes the chill off, but doesn't dry the inside on a foggy Maine evening. >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> C&C 40 >>> >>> Peregrine >>> >>> >>> Andrew Burton >>> >>> PO Box 632 >>> >>> Newport, RI >>> >>> USA 02840 >>> >>> +401 965 5260 >>> >>> >>> On Feb 5, 2016, at 17:29, William Walker via CnC-List >>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> Steve, >>> >>>  I have an espar installed by po, no problems in five years. But, >>> does have significant current draw at start up. I need to start engine to >>> fire up unless on shore power. After it gets going no problem. Outlet >>> in main cabin, v berth and head. >>> >>> Bill Walker >>> >>> Pentwater Mi >>> >>> CnC 36 >>> >>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail >>> >>> >>> On Friday, February 5, 2016 Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List >>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I'm starting to look at the Espar and Webasto units. Is anyone running one >>> on a 32? There's a good price jump from the Espar D2 to the D4. The >>> literature indicates the D2 is good to 26 feet of boat, so it sounds like I >>> need the D4 :( >>> >>> My use is Georgian Bay, just want to extend the season, not living aboard >>> in the winter. The boat is two hours away so there will be "maintenance" >>> trips in the spring and fall which means sleeping aboard, it can get quite >>> cold up there. >>> >>> I have to keep the temps warm for the boat parrot who'll be living aboard >>> with us while we cruise. We're planning three weeks in August this year so >>> it shouldn't be too much of an issue but it gets cold up there at night, >>> even in August. I imagine a D2 would be fine for cold summer nights but I >>> have ideas about maybe cruising the North Channel when the fall colours are >>> out. I don't want to limit myself. At the same time, I don't want to spend >>> money that could go elsewhere. >>> >>> The Newport Dickinson Diesel bulkhead heaters are pretty but I hear they >>> don't make quite enough heat. I'm leaning this way for the cost, but don't >>> want to be disappointed. Everyone says the Espar and Webastos are best. >>> >>> I'de be doing the installation myself in any case so am eager to hear from >>> others who have gone through it. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> Suhana, C&C 32 >>> >>> Toronto >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including >>> unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including >>> unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the >>> bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom >> of page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom > of page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >
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