Hi Ron, 

We have a pretty simple / easy way to deal with that:  We have spin / 
non-spin classes with the same phrf ranges.. 

This way you completely avoid all the complications as it's pretty tricky 
to judge the spin's advantage: The effects will depend on the length of 
the course, it's nature (Is it 'Reachy', triangle, windward / leeward, 
etc) and the boats themselves. Some boats benefit more than others. 

I think just "adding XX" to Phrf will skew the results.  Having separate 
spin / non-spin classes is much simpler, fairer, and less open to 
controversy. 


My 2 cents ,

Good luck with it.

-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, Georgia






Greetings folks,We have a problem with how to handicap boats that race 
with jib and main only (JAM). ?The PHRF handicaps basically are for 
spinnaker racing. ?I believe that there were some clubs, a few only, that 
adjust numbers for JAM boats. ?We make adjustments to the numbers for our 
lake conditions and style of boat (older displacement etc.), but not sure 
how to fix JAM.Polars that I have seen for about 6 boats all show with 
chute only. ?Does anyone know if there are polars for downwind sailing 
without chutes? ?How can one arrive at those speeds?Could some of you 
whose clubs adjust numbers let me know any info you can on how that is 
accomplished at your club? ?And the rationale behind the adjustment.If it 
gets too specific for the whole list, we can take it offline later to keep 
traffic down.ThanksRonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL
Regards



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