Hello Ron,

We do the same thing here in Savannah. We have Class A for the spin boats
and Class B for JAM. Your PHRF rating applies to your boat regardless of
the class entered. Saves a lot of RC grief, but the usual "I lost because
my rating sucks" still applies.

Best regards,
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY (C&C 39TM)
US12788
SAVANNAH, GA


On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hi Ron,
>
> We have a pretty simple / easy way to deal with that:  We have spin /
> non-spin classes with the same phrf ranges..
>
> This way you completely avoid all the complications as it's pretty tricky
> to judge the spin's advantage: The effects will depend on the length of the
> course, it's nature (Is it 'Reachy', triangle, windward / leeward, etc) and
> the boats themselves. Some boats benefit more than others.
>
> I think just "adding XX" to Phrf will skew the results.  Having separate
> spin / non-spin classes is much simpler, fairer, and less open to
> controversy.
>
>
> My 2 cents ,
>
> Good luck with it.
>
> -Francois Rivard
> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
> Lake Lanier, Georgia
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Greetings folks,We have a problem with how to handicap boats that race
> with jib and main only (JAM). ?The PHRF handicaps basically are for
> spinnaker racing. ?I believe that there were some clubs, a few only, that
> adjust numbers for JAM boats. ?We make adjustments to the numbers for our
> lake conditions and style of boat (older displacement etc.), but not sure
> how to fix JAM.Polars that I have seen for about 6 boats all show with
> chute only. ?Does anyone know if there are polars for downwind sailing
> without chutes? ?How can one arrive at those speeds?Could some of you whose
> clubs adjust numbers let me know any info you can on how that is
> accomplished at your club? ?And the rationale behind the adjustment.If it
> gets too specific for the whole list, we can take it offline later to keep
> traffic down.ThanksRonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL
> Regards
>
>
>
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