Jean & Jack,We split our group as well, but we seem to have diminishing numbers on the line, so there are times when we race them together. Hence the need for a better correction.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL
From: Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: C&CList <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Jack Fitzgerald <j...@fitzgeraldforwarding.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 2:35 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap questions for JAM racers Hello Ron, We do the same thing here in Savannah. We have Class A for the spin boats and Class B for JAM. Your PHRF rating applies to your boat regardless of the class entered. Saves a lot of RC grief, but the usual "I lost because my rating sucks" still applies. Best regards, Jack FitzgeraldHONEY (C&C 39TM) US12788SAVANNAH, GA On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Hi Ron, We have a pretty simple / easy way to deal with that: We have spin / non-spin classes with the same phrf ranges.. This way you completely avoid all the complicationsas it's pretty tricky to judge the spin's advantage: The effects will dependon the length of the course, it's nature (Is it 'Reachy', triangle, windward/ leeward, etc) and the boats themselves. Some boats benefit more thanothers. I think just "adding XX" to Phrf will skewthe results. Having separate spin / non-spin classes is much simpler,fairer, and less open to controversy. My 2 cents , Good luck with it. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ "Take Five" Lake Lanier, Georgia Greetings folks,We have a problem with how to handicap boats that racewith jib and main only (JAM). ?The PHRF handicaps basically are for spinnakerracing. ?I believe that there were some clubs, a few only, that adjustnumbers for JAM boats. ?We make adjustments to the numbers for our lakeconditions and style of boat (older displacement etc.), but not sure howto fix JAM.Polars that I have seen for about 6 boats all show with chuteonly. ?Does anyone know if there are polars for downwind sailing withoutchutes? ?How can one arrive at those speeds?Could some of you whose clubsadjust numbers let me know any info you can on how that is accomplishedat your club? ?And the rationale behind the adjustment.If it gets too specificfor the whole list, we can take it offline later to keep traffic down.ThanksRonWildCheriC&C 30-1STL Regards _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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