Our issue is the small size of our fleets. When you have less than 10 boats... handicap range from less than 100 to 250, breaking them up is a problem. Our neighbors on the next river (more room) have spin and non spin fleets, and I've raced a few times down there - a 'fleet' of four boats? That's why we do what we do.
The other issue is crew. Maybe we should race less often and make a bigger deal of it, because when racing every other Saturday from May to Oct, it is tough to get five or six folks every time - so if there are three, we hang the blue flag and run NS. Or, if it is blowing 20 and the foredeck folks aren't up to wrestling the 13.5 foot pole around, then out comes the flag. (Grey hairs on both skipper and crew). Gary From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 3:23 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jean-Francois J Rivard <jfriv...@us.ibm.com> Subject: Stus-List Handicap questions for JAM racers Hi Ron, We have a pretty simple / easy way to deal with that: We have spin / non-spin classes with the same phrf ranges.. This way you completely avoid all the complications as it's pretty tricky to judge the spin's advantage: The effects will depend on the length of the course, it's nature (Is it 'Reachy', triangle, windward / leeward, etc) and the boats themselves. Some boats benefit more than others I think just "adding XX" to Phrf will skew the results. Having separate spin / non-spin classes is much simpler, fairer, and less open to controversy. My 2 cents , Good luck with it. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ "Take Five" Lake Lanier, Georgia Greetings folks,We have a problem with how to handicap boats that race with jib and main only (JAM). ?The PHRF handicaps basically are for spinnaker racing. ?I believe that there were some clubs, a few only, that adjust numbers for JAM boats. ?We make adjustments to the numbers for our lake conditions and style of boat (older displacement etc.), but not sure how to fix JAM.Polars that I have seen for about 6 boats all show with chute only. ?Does anyone know if there are polars for downwind sailing without chutes? ?How can one arrive at those speeds?Could some of you whose clubs adjust numbers let me know any info you can on how that is accomplished at your club? ?And the rationale behind the adjustment.If it gets too specific for the whole list, we can take it offline later to keep traffic down.ThanksRonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL Regards
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