Josh Your idea for single line reef is pretty much the stock setup on the c&c 115. On the 115 it runs inside the boom though to a shiv on the end. I believe there may be some mechanical advantage inside the boom as well but of course cannot see. What we have noted is that there is a lot of friction on this reef line. We think there may be a problem inside the boom but not sure. We have to use a winch to get it reefed and that extra friction of up to the reef cringle (or dogbone) on luff of main adds even more friction.
On a fully crewed boat I believe the single line reef system is slower and less effective than the hook at boom. If solo sailing it may be a good idea though Thanks for the chat yesterday. Will be back at the boat after work today. Was below freezing this morning so did not go early Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rjcasciato via CnC-List Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 5:33 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rjcasciato Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments Josh: If what you're trying to do is use one line to reef both the tack and clew of the Main..........that's a lot of force needed for a single line. What's commonly done is to make up a "strap loop" probably 6" long with stainless rings at each end and fed through the tack grommet before sewing the loop closed...Then on the top side of the gooseneck fitting, install a reefing hook ......Then the line reefing is used for the clew portion of the main and when it comes time to reef, you simply lower the main and drop one of the rings over the reefing hook. The other ring keeps the loop from pulling through the cringle. Then tighten the halyard again. Then use the clew reefing line to set the final sail shape. The fitting that mounts on the gooseneck is like this one......... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-3-8-Reefing-Hook-Sailboat-Sailing-Hardware-Schaefer-Marine-54-21-New-/172132586166?hash=item2813e6d2b6:g:-TwAAOSwwpdW5YT9&vxp=mtr Best, Ron Casciato ________________________________ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 2:24 PM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments Awesome guys! Thanks everyone for the input. It looks like "that's just the way it is". Nobody in the industry has necessarily come up with anything earth shatteringly better. As I think I eluded to earlier, I'm averse to whimsically drilling holes in the boom. Besides, I'm not sure a track or block necessarily looks cleaner so I'll probably stick with a tied on method. Does anybody have any thoughts on using a soft shackle and an eye splice to attach the reefing lines around the boom? I was also considering a single line reefing system. One challenge is that where most setups have the line exit the boom at the mast and turn up to the reef cringle, my boom is solid on top AND my aversion to drilling holes extends to the mast as well. So if I tried a single line reef, it would have the line turn down to the mast collar (like it did previously) but instead of simply running back to the cabin (winch and jammer), the line would run back up to the reef cringle, and back down on the other side of the boom to another turning block which would lead back to the winch and cleat where it would finish. Thoughts on my plan? Thoughts on single line reefing? I've heard some pretty strong arguments against and only a few advocates. Thanks again, Josh On Apr 8, 2016 1:49 PM, "Martin DeYoung via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: >...1 1/4 inch, t track mounted on the side of the boom... Calypso's boom has a similar T track on each side of the boom. I still tie the reefing lines around the boom and have seen very little paint wear. The tracks on Calypso's boom were installed long ago and may also act as stiffeners as the mid boom main sheet attachments are near the tracks. Best regards, Martin Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Robbie Epstein via CnC-List Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 7:48 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Robbie Epstein Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments My 40 has a 1 1/4 inch, t track mounted on the side of the boom with a Schaefer Jiffy reef slide/bail that slides up and down the track so you can position the clew attachment point for multiple mainsail reef points. The reefing line goes through a hook that you use to select which reefing cringle you want to use. Robbie Epstein 1980 C&C 40 _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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