Josh

Your idea for single line reef is pretty much the stock setup on the c&c 115.  
On the 115 it runs inside the boom though to a shiv on the end. I believe there 
may be some mechanical advantage inside the boom as well but of course cannot 
see.  What we have noted is that there is a lot of friction on this reef line.  
We think there may be a problem inside the boom but not sure.  We have to use a 
winch to get it reefed and that extra friction of up to the reef cringle (or 
dogbone) on luff of main adds even more friction.

On a fully crewed boat I believe the single line reef system is slower and less 
effective than the hook at boom.  If solo sailing it may be a good idea though

Thanks for the chat yesterday.  Will be back at the boat after work today.  Was 
below freezing this morning so did not go early

Mike

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Josh:
If what you're trying to do is use one line to reef both the tack and clew of 
the Main..........that's a lot of force needed for a single line.  What's 
commonly done is to make up a "strap loop" probably 6" long with stainless 
rings at each end and fed through the tack grommet before sewing the loop 
closed...Then on the top side of the gooseneck fitting, install a reefing hook 
......Then the line reefing is used for the clew portion of the main and when 
it comes time to reef, you simply lower the main and drop one of the rings over 
the reefing hook. The other ring keeps the loop from pulling through the 
cringle.  Then tighten the halyard again.

Then use the clew reefing line to set the final sail shape.

The fitting that mounts on the gooseneck is like this one.........   
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-3-8-Reefing-Hook-Sailboat-Sailing-Hardware-Schaefer-Marine-54-21-New-/172132586166?hash=item2813e6d2b6:g:-TwAAOSwwpdW5YT9&vxp=mtr

Best,

Ron Casciato



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Awesome guys!  Thanks everyone for the input.  It looks like "that's just the 
way it is".  Nobody in the industry has necessarily come up with anything earth 
shatteringly better.

As I think I eluded to earlier, I'm averse to whimsically drilling holes in the 
boom.   Besides, I'm not sure a track or block necessarily looks cleaner so 
I'll probably stick with a tied on method.

Does anybody have any thoughts on using a  soft shackle and an eye splice to 
attach the reefing lines around the boom?

I was also considering a single line reefing system.  One challenge is that 
where most setups have the line exit the boom at the mast and turn up to the 
reef cringle, my boom is solid on top AND my aversion to drilling holes extends 
to the mast as well.  So if I tried a single line reef, it would have the line 
turn down to the mast collar (like it did previously) but instead of simply 
running back to the cabin (winch and jammer), the line would run back up to the 
reef cringle, and back down on the other side of the boom to another turning 
block which would lead back to the winch and cleat where it would finish.

Thoughts on my plan?

Thoughts on single line reefing?  I've heard some pretty strong arguments 
against and only a few advocates.

Thanks again,
Josh
On Apr 8, 2016 1:49 PM, "Martin DeYoung via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>...1 1/4 inch, t track mounted on the side of the boom...

Calypso's boom has a similar T track on each side of the boom.  I still tie the 
reefing lines around the boom and have seen very little paint wear.

The tracks on Calypso's boom were installed long ago and may also act as 
stiffeners as the mid boom main sheet attachments are near the tracks.

Best regards,

Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Boom fittings for reefing attachments

My 40 has a 1 1/4 inch, t track mounted on the side of the boom with a Schaefer 
Jiffy reef slide/bail that slides up and down the track so you can position the 
clew attachment point for multiple mainsail reef points.  The reefing line goes 
through a hook that you use to select which reefing cringle you want to use.

Robbie Epstein

1980 C&C 40


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