Rick / Mike:

I think we have an over zealous 'Pilot'. Last Summer, I witnessed something quite unusual.....an out going 'pilot boat' around the Point Pleasant Shoal mark turned around and blasted a sail boat in the path of an outgoing container vessel which was still back by George's Island. In no way was the sail boat going to impede the container vessel.....there was plenty of time and plenty of room for there to be no issue.

Nevertheless, the 'Pilot', in my opinion, was harassing the sail boat.

Mike, on the other hand, some years back, a sailor from our club with a Tanzer 26 actually broadsided a container ship in the same Point Pleasant shoal area during a Wednesday night race. Yep, it's not BS, I personally witnessed it and could not believe it actually happened.

Needed to say, the Harbor Master sent our club a nasty letter and restricted out Wednesday night racing to the far west side of the harbor for the remained of the season. Hopefully, the Harbor Master won't be involved with last night's situation.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2016-06-09 4:14 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List wrote:

Mike,

We heard that from our side of the harbour.

Were boats actually in the way of the container ship or was the pilot boat overreacting again.

He must have given you guys the /five toot salute/ at least four times.

Rick Taillieu

Nemesis

'75 C&C 25  #371

Shearwater Yacht Club

Halifax, NS.

*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
*Sent:* June-09-16 09:40
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Hoyt, Mike
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Right of way (ROW) discussion

Chuck

It seems that Pilot boats use horn signals and that Container ships trump all vessels.

Last evening during a Wednesday race with 30+ sailboats in varying classes in light winds the Pilot boat leaving the harbour stopped mid fleet turned backwards and repeatedly sounded their horn for a period of minutes. Have never seen that before. I suspect is also not the last we will hear of this.

I doubt the pilot boat or ship would have had any patience with stand up paddle boarders either as we clearly know who is on the top of the heap in ROW discussions!

Mike

*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck S via CnC-List
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 7:35 PM
*To:* CNC boat owners, cnc-list
*Cc:* Chuck S
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Right of way (ROW) discussion

I took all the coast guard and power squadron courses and learned all the regs and rules and horn signals and flag signals and right o way stuff. What I learned from 35 years of observation is; nobody uses horn signals or flag signals and lawyers have the right of way, so never invoke right of way unless you are racing, always take steps to avoid collisions early, and don't ever hit a lawyer.

Chuck
*/Resolute/*
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

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*From: *"ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> *To: *"cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com>" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> *Cc: *"ALAN BERGEN" <trya...@alumni.usc.edu <mailto:trya...@alumni.usc.edu>>
*Sent: *Wednesday, June 8, 2016 1:33:59 PM
*Subject: *Re: Stus-List Right of way (ROW) discussion

It seems to me that there are a number of people on this list who don't know the rules. Perhaps it's time to read Chapman's "Piloting, Seamanship and Small Boat Handling". The pecking order is: rowboats (including kayaks, canoes, paddle boards), sailboats, powerboats. Then there are exceptions: tug pulling a barge moves up the pecking order; overtaking boat moves down the pecking order and I'm sure there are more.

Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

From Urban Dictionary:

*dufus* <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.urbandictionary.com_define.php-3Fterm-3Ddufus-26defid-3D8815&d=DQMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ&m=c_zkS8vl6mKoGceW9b6mLMRRen8mZNkrljs67zmcswo&s=YZRja9WpZut0dhWqNGxpbYhUVfjuuyAxbqMEGkZ_FXg&e=>

dummy, fool, idiot

OR

*doofus* <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.urbandictionary.com_define.php-3Fterm-3Ddoofus-26defid-3D422633&d=DQMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=9w3G7Cf8YfQnrjmtuNxwDJYr3JMv9f1pAfgAJ9xXYQQ&m=c_zkS8vl6mKoGceW9b6mLMRRen8mZNkrljs67zmcswo&s=Y9jZ1UfveX38i_IkJr-5nMUo-XKXy_2OQpa7s4u3few&e=>

Someone who hasn't got a clue!
They live in blissful ignorance of the world, fashion, personal hygiene and social skills.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V /Oceanis/ (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

    On Jun 8, 2016, at 10:20 AM, Rick Brass via CnC-List
    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

    BTW, exactly how do you spell the word/term pronounced “doo-fuss”?


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