Damn — my “sea-lawyering” has been beaten by a “real” lawyer…   :^)

I stand corrected.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Jan 26, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Fred:
>  
>     Yes, I’m saying that’s not the case – at least in Pennsylvania.
>  
>     Without getting into a huge legal discussion about the Supremacy Clause 
> and federal preemption, there are a lot of subject matters where the Feds and 
> the State have what they call “concurrent jurisdiction.”  I don’t like the 
> term “jurisdiction,” because in my view jurisdiction deals with courts.  
> That’s why I use terms like “legal authority,” “enforcement authority,” or 
> just “authority.”  Recall from grade school that States have general police 
> power, while the Federal government supposedly has limited powers as 
> enumerated in the U.S. Constitution.  The written limitation was almost 
> entirely circumvented by the U.S. Supreme Court’s reinterpretation of the 
> Commerce Clause in the 1930s (thanks to FDR), and the Federal government now 
> does a lot of things that it did not do historically.  The result is a 
> ridiculously complex web of concurrent Federal and State authority.  For 
> example, the EPA administers and enforces Federal environmental laws, which 
> were enacted under the authority of the Commerce Clause.  In PA, the State 
> Department of Environmental Protection administers and enforces State 
> environmental laws under its general police power, and also administers and 
> enforces Federal law (along with EPA) under a delegation arrangement with the 
> EPA.  At the same time, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has regulatory 
> authority over structures between Ordinary High Water Mark and Ordinary Low 
> Water Mark – which makes no sense in non-tidal waters because the high/low 
> water mark framework was created under English common law to deal with 
> navigable waters under the Public Trust Doctrine (waters that rise and fall 
> daily are tidal influenced because they are connected to the ocean and were 
> therefore considered navigable).  Adding to the complication, Pennsylvania 
> owns the beds under navigable waters (as do many other States) and, along 
> with the Corps, has regulatory authority between Ordinary High and Low Water 
> Marks.  There are local regulatory issues as well.
>  
>     So, each State may have its own unique circumstances, but generally 
> speaking the Feds and States have concurrent enforcement authority over 
> navigable waters within the State.
>  
> Matt
> Former PA Deputy Attorney General
> Former DER Assistant Regional Counsel (assigned to water programs, including 
> Coastal Zone Management)
> Former DEP Northwest Regional Counsel

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