Hi Josh- How long does the mainsheet need to be for this setup with coarse, fine and winch? Are all those stock blocks? I am not sure what you would call the double fiddle with the offset becket. Dave
> On Jun 8, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > My boat came setup from the PO with a cabin top mainsheet control to a cabin > top winch. It was painfully under powered even with the winch. My traveler > is located in the cockpit on the aft edge of the forward bench. I had > previously, on other boats, only ever used a 4:1 mainsheet which was trimmed > at the traveler. A convenient setup for tacking with a limited crew or > singlehanded. > > The PO had tried a 6:1 or 8:1 trimmed at the traveler but justifiably > complained that there was too much extra line to be tripped on and tangled in > the cockpit or thrown below in the cabin. > > I had seen the stacked fiddle block setup that makes 3:1/6:1 or 4:1/8:1. > While innovative, I decided that the bulk of the line would still be under > foot in the cockpit 95% of the time. > > I ended up designing a cascading system which gives me a 12:1 "tweaker" which > is readily available in the cockpit and a 3:1 which runs to the cabin top > winch for the deep down wind runs. TBH the tweaker and the traveler together > usually give enough range for all but the deepest down wind runs. Even > though the 3:1 is terminated at a winch it is extremely rare that we need to > use it since the traveler and tweaker are available to make up for that which > the 3:1 cannot. > > Based in your picture it appears that my setup may be useful on your boat. > Basically you would eliminate either the port or starboard control which you > currently have. Install a 4:1 or 6:1 fiddle block between boom and traveler, > and have the free end now terminate with a cam cleat at the traveler side. > With no other purchase changes it looks like a 4:1 could be arranged to > produce 5:1 compounded with the existing 2:1 and you would have 10:1. With > the compromise of more line on the deck you could push it to 12:1 or 14:1 > with the application of a 6:1 instead. Here is a link to some pictures of my > setup. If you need more description or better pictures just let me know. > > https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yY3Qtbi1VSllwM3M > <https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yY3Qtbi1VSllwM3M> > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 10:07 AM Chuck Borge via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > Josh, > Thanks for jumping in. > > For reference, it looks like this diagram. > The traveler is on the bridge deck. The problem is the purchase. I might add > a triple at the top and move the double to the bottom. That will give me 3:1 > instead. But it doesn’t solve my wanting to trim the jib on the aft winches. > Before I go buy a more traditional cascading set up like the Ronstan RP72900 > 4:1/8:1, I want to think it out. > > Best, > Chuck > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > >> Chuck, >> >> Any chance you have some pictures? I tried google and sailboatdata but >> can't tell if your boat has a cabin top traveler or a cockpit traveler? >> >> Just for clarity, are you having trouble trimming the traveler or the >> mainsheet? >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >> 1989 C&C 37+ >> Solomons, MD >> >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 9:54 PM Chuck Borge via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: >> Hi Listers, >> >> Anyone with a C&C 41 have suggestions on a mainsheet set-up? >> My new-to-me boat has a "German" mainsheet set-up that runs to the runner >> winches. It's supposed to be the hot set-up but I'm not impressed. >> Since I'm using a 97% r/f jib, I find tacking that alone using the runner >> winches to be pretty easy, but what to do with the main? Also the 2:1 >> nature of the German set-up is not really that easy to trim, even with the >> winches. >> I'm thinking I'd like a 4:1/8:1 more traditional set-up or a reasonable >> suggestion(?). >> Thanks in advance for the help. >> >> Chuck Borge >> C&C 41 Tenacious >> (formerly C&C 34 Elusive) >> Somerset, MA >> 508-642-3557 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >> every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> <https://www.paypal.me/stumurray> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. 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