I apologize for creating confusion.  For the reasons stated by Andrew
Burton, DO NOT shut cockpit drains.  Period.  My statement was supposed to
be that having seacocks open while not in use, or while away from the the
boat was an invitation for desaster.  A better practice would be to
relocate the cockpit drains to a location above the waterline which would
eliminate the need for isolation valves and the subsequent risk incurred by
the necessity of leaving them open.

I also went on to suggest that in order to keep them above water on all
angles of heel that you MAY need to cross the drains port-stbd though
depending on the discharge location this may cause the cockpit drains to be
lower than the discharge ports and subsequently not drain until the next
tack.  A more centralized drain is a better solution.  As mentioned by
others a discharge in the transom is a good solution.  You want it as high
above waterline as possible but below the cockpit floor.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 10:03 AM PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Maybe dumb question but I have only been sailing on C&c  40 for 3 years.
> (J24 Catalina oday all had open cockpit drains out stern)
>
> When sailing do people regularly close cockpit drains  I am on the side
> mine are always open but I did service mine which required them to be taken
> apart(frozen open— lots of pb. Blaster and kroil oil and careful
> persuasion) ). So if I wanted to I could close them  I could
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter
> C&c 40 aft 1983
> Portland me
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 30, 2018, at 9:19 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Cockpit drain seacocks most assuredly should not be closed when no one is
> aboard...unless you plan to swim in your cockpit!
> Andy
>
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI
> USA    02842
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Dec 30, 2018, at 05:10, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> That was poor engineering to begin with.  Seacocks should be closed when
> not in use and more importantly when not on board - particularly those
> below the water line.  There is no time when your cockpit drains will not
> be in use.  Besides, seacocks that are inaccessible never get closed.  I
> suggest looking for a place to re-route your drains, to a location above
> the waterline, without valves, and then permanently retire the through
> hulls.
>
> Also consider the waterline when heeled.  You may have to cross port and
> starboard.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 11:18 PM sender via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I bought earlier this year a C&C 32.  One issue the surveyor pointed out
>> is the seacocks for the cockpit drains are stuck in the open position.
>> This boat has spent it's known history in cold salt water on the west coast
>> of BC.
>>
>> I'm interested to know if anyone else has had this same type of seacock,
>> and had success freeing it up.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/xp1haN2nPHUneETUA
>>
>> The starboard side one is only barely accessible through the 12"x 12"
>> panel in the aft end of the quarter-birth.  If it was reasonably
>> accessible, I'd just replace it, but to get 2 hands on it I'd probably have
>> to go through the locker and remove the fuel tank.
>>
>> The other pic is a fitting on the rudder tube.  I assume this is (well,
>> was) a grease cup.  Has anyone taken one of these on?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eric
>> C&C 32 Sirocco 2
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