Thanks to all who responded. I was hoping there would be an abundance of people in a similar situation, successfully freeing up the seacocks without too much difficulty. There wasn't, so I think I'm going to go the route of replacing with Marelon seacocks and hopefully be done with it for good.
The secondary discussion about the lines crossing, is interesting, but I've never noticed any back-up of water through the existing arrangement. It seems to me for the crossed arrangement to work, the windward hull fitting would have to be well above the healed waterline to avoid water ingress, which means you would't get drainage of any spray when healed. Am I missing something here? Thanks again, Eric On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 7:18 AM Neil Andersen via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > But by crossing the hoses, you don’t end up wit a situation where the > scupper and thru-hull are both below the waterline when healed. > > Neil Andersen > 1982 C&C 32 FoxFire > Rock Hall, MD > > Neil Andersen > 20691 Jamieson Rd > Rock Hall, MD 21661 > > ------------------------------ > *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Matthew L. > Wolford via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2018 10:08 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Matthew L. Wolford > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue > > Agreed that cockpit drains should always be open and functioning > correctly. I had one closed for some repair work on my old Ranger 26 and > decided it would be safe to race the boat with one functioning cockpit > drain. Worked great as long as we were on the right tack. We were > nervously bailing on the other tack several miles offshore. Never again. > > I am curious to hear more about the idea of crossing the hoses. It does > not make sense to me as the far side thru-hull would be higher when > heeled. > > *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, December 30, 2018 10:19 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Ye Olde Stuck Seacock issue > > I apologize for creating confusion. For the reasons stated by Andrew > Burton, DO NOT shut cockpit drains. Period. My statement was supposed to > be that having seacocks open while not in use, or while away from the the > boat was an invitation for desaster. A better practice would be to > relocate the cockpit drains to a location above the waterline which would > eliminate the need for isolation valves and the subsequent risk incurred by > the necessity of leaving them open. > > I also went on to suggest that in order to keep them above water on all > angles of heel that you MAY need to cross the drains port-stbd though > depending on the discharge location this may cause the cockpit drains to be > lower than the discharge ports and subsequently not drain until the next > tack. A more centralized drain is a better solution. As mentioned by > others a discharge in the transom is a good solution. You want it as high > above waterline as possible but below the cockpit floor. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, 10:03 AM PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Maybe dumb question but I have only been sailing on C&c 40 for 3 years. >> (J24 Catalina oday all had open cockpit drains out stern) >> >> When sailing do people regularly close cockpit drains I am on the side >> mine are always open but I did service mine which required them to be taken >> apart(frozen open— lots of pb. Blaster and kroil oil and careful >> persuasion) ). So if I wanted to I could close them I could >> >> Thanks >> >> Peter >> C&c 40 aft 1983 >> Portland me >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 30, 2018, at 9:19 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Cockpit drain seacocks most assuredly should not be closed when no one is >> aboard...unless you plan to swim in your cockpit! >> Andy >> >> Andrew Burton >> 139 Tuckerman Ave >> Middletown, RI >> USA 02842 >> >> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >> +401 965-5260 >> >> On Dec 30, 2018, at 05:10, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> That was poor engineering to begin with. Seacocks should be closed when >> not in use and more importantly when not on board - particularly those >> below the water line. There is no time when your cockpit drains will not >> be in use. Besides, seacocks that are inaccessible never get closed. I >> suggest looking for a place to re-route your drains, to a location above >> the waterline, without valves, and then permanently retire the through >> hulls. >> >> Also consider the waterline when heeled. You may have to cross port and >> starboard. >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >> 1989 C&C 37+ >> Solomons, MD >> >> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 11:18 PM sender via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I bought earlier this year a C&C 32. One issue the surveyor pointed out >>> is the seacocks for the cockpit drains are stuck in the open position. >>> This boat has spent it's known history in cold salt water on the west coast >>> of BC. >>> >>> I'm interested to know if anyone else has had this same type of seacock, >>> and had success freeing it up. >>> >>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/xp1haN2nPHUneETUA >>> >>> The starboard side one is only barely accessible through the 12"x 12" >>> panel in the aft end of the quarter-birth. If it was reasonably >>> accessible, I'd just replace it, but to get 2 hands on it I'd probably have >>> to go through the locker and remove the fuel tank. >>> >>> The other pic is a fitting on the rudder tube. I assume this is (well, >>> was) a grease cup. Has anyone taken one of these on? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Eric >>> C&C 32 Sirocco 2 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. 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