Currently sailing downwind off the N coast of Puerto Rico and just set up the 
22' pole to wing out the jib by myself in 20 knots of breeze while my wife 
steered. It really isn't hard. People often overthink the process, though. 
Andy

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middletown, RI 
USA 02842

+401 965 5260
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> On Apr 3, 2019, at 12:25, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Pro – it is lighter
> Con – it costs more
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
> Bush via CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 1:46 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Richard Bush <bushma...@aol.com>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Downwind sailing- Whisker pole length and 
> height
>  
> Andy; I liked your article; would you advise pro or con on the cost of using 
> a carbon fiber whisker pole? Thanks
>  
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tue, Apr 2, 2019 10:26 am
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Downwind sailing- Whisker pole length and height
> 
> Here's a short piece I wrote on how to rig and set a pole. It really isn't 
> too big a chore, if you do it right.
> https://www.cruisingworld.com/how/sailing-downwind-set-whisker-pole
>  
> Andy
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 139 Tuckerman Ave
> Middletown, RI 
> USA    02842
>  
> www.burtonsailing.com
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
> On Apr 2, 2019, at 09:33, David Knecht via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I have to disagree with the recommendation to just use the spinnaker pole.  I 
> bought a whisker pole because it weighs much less than the spinnaker pole and 
> I can store it vertically attached at the mast end.  I don’t think I could 
> maneuver the spinnaker pole in place by myself on the unstable deck of a boat 
> downwind.  I don’t trust my balance plus it is really heavy and unwieldy even 
> on firm ground.  The whisker pole also allows me to set different lengths 
> depending on conditions.  
>  
> Related to that: I read the Forespar recommendations on whisker pole use the 
> other day.  They strongly recommended using a topping lift.  I have not done 
> that although I have one.  It seems like it might affect sail shape as the 
> weight of the pole pulling down on the clew might alter the shape of the 
> leech of the sail.  I will play when I can sail again, but wonder if anyone 
> has thoughts.  Dave
>  
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C&C 34+
> New London, CT
> 
> <pastedGraphic.tiff>
>  
> On Mar 29, 2019, at 7:04 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>  
> Pretty serious racers there worrying about using a whisker pole longer than J 
> and the associated time penalty and that is really only a consideration on a 
> run. There are so many other reasons to take extra seconds or minutes to 
> complete the course. Just stick with your spin pole use your topping lift and 
> pole the genoa out a little to windward so wing on wing with genoa to weather 
> Always found that fastest on a run and less chance of accidental jibe of the 
> mainsail. Try it if you got a spinn pole onboard
>  
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:48 PM David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> If I were racing in that neck of the woods I would like some clarification of 
> this.   Unrestricted pole length is a major advantage...especially in light 
> airs.  
> 
> Get Outlook for Android
>  
> From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Michael Brown via 
> CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:40:21 PM
> 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Michael Brown
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Downwind sailing- Whisker pole length and height
>  
> Not much in the PHRF-LO Handicapper's manual on the topic. It is covered in
> meeting notes from 2008 and 2009.
>  
> WPL penalty – There will no longer be a penalty for oversized Whisker Pole 
> lengths.
>  
> 2009 Spring Meeting.
>  
> https://www.phrf-lo.org/index.php/about-us/meetings/central-council/205-2009-spring-meeting
>  
> It would be nice if there was some definitive statement in the current 
> documentation but I
> do not see any.
>  
>  
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C&C 30-1
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 12:45:53 +0000 
> From: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com> 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> 
> 
> Michael 
> 
> Check the PHRF-LO bylaws carefully.  In PHRF-NS the whicker pole is 
> considered to be a spinnaker pole which is limited to J.  You may wish to 
> look in a definitions section if one is available.  I have been involved with 
> handicapping for many years in our region and this is my understanding of how 
> most areas do it.  However I do know there are some areas that have separate 
> limit for whisker pole than for spinnaker pole that is permitted to be longer 
> than J ? I just cannot recall at this time which areas those are 
> 
> Mike 
> Persistence 
> Halifax, NS
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