Yes, I saw that listing when it came up the other day - the first 30 mk2 locally that I've seen. I love the interior (on paper at least), but the price might make me wonder if we should have bought a bigger boat. It may sound strange, but I also don't want to get a boat that is *too* nice. It's like having a nice car - I don't want to get really upset the first time I crash the dock with a boat like that... so one with a few dings included will be easier for me... :)
Also, with the hopes of travelling down the coast to Mexico and beyond, even a modern 30' might not be enough for long term comfort, although I know people who gone around the globe (twice) in a 27... On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 7:12 PM Randy Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com> wrote: > Shawn have you seen this boat? > https://nanaimo.craigslist.org/boa/d/ladysmith-1989-cc-30-mk2-sloop/6865778294.html > > It’s true the 30 MK I layout is simple and the appointments spartan in the > early hull numbers like mine. That’s OK for me, I keep her stripped down > and only occasionally sleep or cook aboard. > > The MK II listed above is more luxurious, and the asking price may reflect > that. Perhaps the seller would consider a lower offer. > > Cheers, > Randy > > On Apr 17, 2019, at 7:30 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Hi Ron, > > Ok, here's the backstory... We started out looking at 27-30' boats, with > the hope of finding a C&C 30-1 based on what I'd read about its stiffness. > The first one we found was $25K and although it was in very good condition, > we just weren't that impressed, mainly with the interior layout. Gradually > I started looking at anything up to about $35K, which has included a lot of > boats: Westsail 32, Nicholson 31 & 35 (both very nice boats - should have > bought the 35), Alberg 37, Niagara 35, Ericson 29, 30+, 32, 35, Newport 28, > 33, C&C 35-2, 36, 37. Of these, the C&C 35-2 and Nicholson 35 have > impressed me the most. The Nicholson is probably one of 3-4 on the > continent, so I don't expect to find another. The C&C 35-2 seems like a > great fit, but I don't expect I'll find another for $25K around here. > > My wife grew up boating on a 26' wooden powerboat that her Dad built, > travelling to Desolation Sound every summer, so she is pretty comfortable > on the water, but has only sailed a few times on dinghies - Laser, Sunfish > and MacGregor 26. The MacGregor freaks her out because it gives the > illusion of a big boat with the stability of a dinghy. She's fine in a > Laser... she even hauled prawn traps from one last summer... :) > > Finally, I am deciding between a "starter boat" around $10K, knowing that > we'll still look for the right boat. I don't want to pay much more than > $10K for a boat that will only last 1-2 years as the 12% sales tax is then > just throwing money away. If we find what seems like a good long term boat > for $25K or so, we'll go for it, but so far, that has been an elusive item. > Every $25K boat has either been an overpriced $15K boat (like that mint C&C > 30), or a $35-40K boat that needs work. I'm ok with a boat that needs some > work, provided I can sail it while doing the work over time (so it needs a > decent engine, sails and rigging). After almost a year of this search, I no > longer have the time for a project boat. > > So that's why a $10K boat makes sense to me... Is the 29 is that boat? I > don't know... > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2019 at 6:03 PM rjcasciato--- via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Shawn.....take me behind why a 29 for 10K makes sense for you. >> For my taste.....if your wife is uncomfortable sailing....you want to >> rethink this. >> Mine has had only miserable experiences in the 30 years of sailing..... >> All of my early boats were too small..... >> I now have probably the best Rob Ball design ever... >> I bought a 38MKII for 20k 20 years ago... >> You should think bigger....and when your wife finally stops >> sailing.....you end up with a real race machine.... >> >> Just thinking ahead.... Ron >> >> >> >> Sent from Xfinity Connect Application >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Cc: johnr...@aol.com >> Sent: 2019-04-17 8:31:35 PM >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29? >> >> Is this a 29 Mark I or Mark II?? >> >> I love my Mark II. Not tender to me as an old dingy sailor. Yes, >> nimble, quick, responsive. >> >> There is another Mark II at my club with a shorter rudder than mine and I >> understand he does have more problems with broaching. I have raced mine in >> 40+gusts and won that race under PHRF. One broach in 7 years when crew did >> not take the main sheet with him while hiking in order to be ready to >> release in conditions that might warrant it. >> >> Suddenly went from a north bound boat to a south bound boat. Best broach >> of my life. Boat just flipped around and we went on sailing. No one hurt. >> >> John McLaughlin >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mark A. Watson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Cc: Mark A. Watson <m...@watsonandson.com> >> Sent: Wed, Apr 17, 2019 2:32 pm >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Thoughts on '77 C&C 29? >> >> Strangly >> >> I have a C&C 41 - love it >> Hate going in reverse its always a crap shoot. Goes up wind like a vacuum >> cleaner. Best at 25 - 30 degrees >> Hull had one small blister at last years haul out. Oh and the traditional >> keel smile. Great construction and smart above and below deck fittings and >> appointments. >> >> Not sure what else would be relevant >> >> Mark Watson >> Trinity - 1977 Newport 41 >> >> >> >> On 4/17/2019 9:23 AM, Jeremy Dinsel via CnC-List wrote: >> >> I happen to have a C&C 29 from the exact same year. It is a little tender >> at the dock as it’ll move a bit when it’s boarded, but underway it feels >> fine to me. I’m a new boat owner and this is the first boat I’ve owned. I >> obtained it for a similar price and put a good amount into it to replace >> the standing and running rigging as well as the sails. I have the original >> universal diesel, so if your option has been repowered, that might be a >> great addition. >> >> Under full power (with a 120% Genoa), the boat heels fairly comfortably >> and races forwarded in up to 14 kts. I’d recommend reefing by 14 kts, but >> it is situationally relevant. I have been out in 20 kts under full sail and >> found it aggressive as the boat was able to point up to 15 degrees off the >> wind but still didn’t dip the toe rail. I dropped the sails quickly for my >> own comfort as well as my crew’s. >> >> It’s been my opinion that comfort with heeling comes from time and >> experience on boats. Much like someone else mentioned, conditions and >> training even for catamaran appreciators will eventually win over >> relatively new sailors. >> >> There’s little I’d change in my 29’. I’d recommend getting a survey and >> seeing if it’s still the best deal on the market. No matter what you go >> with, keep your crew in mind while helping them to gain the time and >> experience required to become comfortable. Find other friends with more >> experience that your crew knows and respects and give them the helm. I’ve >> found that having my friend Kristin aboard gives me ample time to compare >> my level of comfort vs her’s. She’s far more experienced than I am, and is >> the perfect bell weather. >> >> Jeremy Dinsel >> C&C 29 1977 >> Seattle, Wa >> >> iTypo'd expressly for you. >> >> On Apr 16, 2019, at 18:00, Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I'm interested in opinions of a '77 C&C 29. There is one named "Tooth & >> Nail" that has been for sale in Vancouver for some time now. The photos >> look good, apparently has a good sail inventory, decent Yanmar engine, >> wheel steering. Apparently a popular local race boat (so it may be beat >> up?) >> >> It doesn't seem likely that we're going to find a 35' this season, so I'm >> looking at smaller, cheaper boats so we can begin sailing while still keep >> an eye out for the right boat. At the moment, the smaller, cheaper boats >> include a very well kept Ericson 29, and this C&C 29, both for around $12K >> CAD. >> >> One reason I overlooked the 29 in the past was based on where it sits on >> the stability diagram - right at the top among the most tender of all >> boats. How serious a concern is this for cruising as keelboat beginners? I >> don't want to scare my wife, who has very little sailing experience, with a >> very tender boat. She gets uncomfortable when sailing on a friend's >> Macgregor 26, which seems to heel over at the slightest gust. >> >> -- >> Shawn Wright >> shawngwri...@gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >> every one is greatly appreciated. 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