And an Adler Barbour refrige unit when we need it

On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 5:10 PM dwight veinot <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Stop that please. Everybody wants more power and batteries store power. We
> use power for a lot of stuff on our boats and we try to install batteries
> to hold more power than what we really need.  Two group 27 deep cycle run
> Alianna and she got electric head and presuurized hot and cold.  Don’t try
> to overdo it but big demands on avaiable 12 v power for 120v hair dryers
> and microwaves.
>
> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 1:37 PM Bill via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Or this?
>>
>> http://www.balmar.net/services-view/sg200/ill
>>
>> Bill Coleman
>>
>> On Jul 5, 2019 2:35 PM, Olivier Chatot via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Edd,
>>
>> I agree with Marek and Gary about the voltage reading not being a
>> reliable indication of the state of charge. Here's an example from my boat.
>> At noon my battery bank is normally back to full charge and the voltmeter
>> shows 14.01V, cool. A second later the fridge starts and the voltage drops
>> to close to 13V.
>>
>> Best,
>> Olivier
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 13:46 Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Edd,
>> to add to what Gary said...
>>
>> any measurement of the remaining capacity of the battery bank is tricky,
>> because it depends on how accurate your in- and out- meters are, what the
>> actual (current) total battery bank capacity is (it changes over time,
>> never up) and at what SoC (state of charge) you started the measurements.
>>
>> I assume that your 450 Ah is a nominal capacity, but you don’t know how
>> much of that is left.
>>
>> The 6 A you mention, is it 6 A over several hours (let’s say 3), i.e. 6 A
>> times “several (3)” hours = ~18 Ah or just 6 Ah? However, on a 450 Ah
>> battery bank, even 20 Ah is just under 5%, so if you started with 100% SoC
>> you should be at 95% (if it was 6 Ah, the SoC should be 98.5%).
>>
>> As Gary mentioned, re-synchronisation is a must.
>>
>> The voltage you are seeing depends heavily on what is using the battery
>> at the given time (as you check it). I can almost guarantee that if you
>> were watching the monitor at the time of starting the motor, the voltage
>> meter would show some number much lower than 12 V (even if the SoC was
>> almost 100%).
>>
>> I am not sure if it helped you much, though
>>
>> Marek
>> 1994 C270 Legato
>> Ottawa, ON
>>
>> *From:* Gary Russell via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 5, 2019 13:08
>> *To:* C&C List
>> *Cc:* Gary Russell
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Voltage / Amp Hours
>>
>> Hi Edd,
>>     The battery voltage is only an indication of the state of charge of a
>> lead-acid battery when the battery has been without load (or charge) for
>> several hours.  Otherwise, the voltage is pretty much meaningless.  Many
>> devices measure the state of charge by noting the difference between the
>> number of amp-hours drawn and the number of amp-hours charged into the
>> battery.  It is a more accurate indication of the state of charge but has
>> it's limitations as well.  Any inaccuracy in measuring the current into or
>> out of the battery will accumulate over time requiring the device to be
>> "re-synchronized".
>>
>> Gary
>> S/V Kaylarah
>> '90 C&C 37+
>> East Greenwich, RI, USA
>> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 12:23 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Listers,
>>
>> Last year, I installed a Blue Sea battery monitor and I’m a little
>> perplexed about the readings I am seeing.
>>
>> Last night, before an amazing fireworks display at Hempstead Harbor
>> (thanks to fellow Lister Neal Gallagher for the guest mooring), I looked at
>> the display. Out of the 450 amp hours in the House bank, we had used around
>> 6 amps between using the electric head, cell phone charging, etc. for
>> several hours — with the display showing 99% capacity.  But the voltage was
>> showing 12.38, which I understand to mean closer to 75%.
>>
>> Someone on a YouTube video said that the Voltage reading is not really
>> the one to go by, as the voltage will increase when you start switching
>> things off.
>>
>> Is that all true? Is what I’m seeing normal? Can one of you Amperage Aces
>> or Voltage Vixens explain this to me? (Please keep it simple - way too much
>> Romulan Ale and Klingon Blood Wine flowing last night.)
>>
>> - Confused on City Island
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Edd
>>
>> -------------------------------—-
>> Edd M. Schillay
>> Captain of the “Starship Enterprise”
>> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>> Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL
>> www.StarshipSailing.com
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