Thanks Josh, Neil,

Yes, I had people help me remove the mast and when the corrosion was
evident, both sailors working on the connections told me the plates had
plenty of metal and I should just clean them up - which I will definitely
do.

I'm still curious about replacement cost so while the plates are removed
I'm going to get some estimates. From the numbers Neil just mentioned It
sounds like 1/4" stainless would have the equivalent strength, so I'll see
what that costs - but I agree with Rob Ball in that the tops could be
serviceable or re-inforced but I'll see what the pros say when I take it in
for costing - at least I'll know.

Chees,
Dan

I'll report back to the list afterwards.

Cheers,
Dan

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:28 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Neil, you mentioned fatigue cracking in aluminum.  What about stress
> corrosion cracking in SS?
>
> Dan, my thought is that the plates are safe for use of the boat.  I
> believe it is more likely that the standing rigging will fail before the
> chainplates do.  I don't know about you but I have plenty of other boat
> projects that are more worthy of my money.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 10:15 AM Neil Gallagher via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Dan,
>>
>> Grade 316 stainless is about two to three times as strong as aluminum,
>> it varies a lot depending on what grade Al you're using. (Some numbers:
>> utlimate tensile strength of 316 SS is about 84,000 psi, aluminum
>> 6061-T6, a common marine alloy, is 42,000 psi) SS is also less prone to
>> cracking under fatigue loading.
>>
>> IMHO those chainplates aren't all that bad, the holes are not elongated,
>> just a little rough.  It'd be nice to see the top of the holes where the
>> load is transferred, but what's visible is decent. There's no
>> significant wastage in thickness, appears to be mostly the surface
>> coating that has worn off.  If you're really concerned you can have them
>> dye penetrant tested for cracks, could be done in place.
>>
>> Of course free advice is worth what you pay for it....
>>
>> Neil Gallagher
>> Weatherly, 35-1
>> Glen Cove, NY
>>
>>
>> On 8/14/2019 9:42 AM, Dan via CnC-List wrote:
>> > Fortunately our yard doesn't get involved with stepping and unstepping
>> > masts so it's 100% my discretion.
>> >
>> > I know a guy who does stainless. I was thinking about getting him to
>> > check out the plates and quote me on new ones made to spec, except
>> > instead of 1/2" thickness throughout, I would ask for the below deck
>> > portion to be 1/4" or 3/8" thickness. I'm under the impression that
>> > stainless is much stronger and can be thinner to achieve the
>> > equivalent strength to the aluminum plates. I'm not an engineer, but
>> > I'd sail with that setup.
>> >
>> > If these aluminum plates are fine as is for another 5 years or so I
>> > can put this job off. I've seen much worse corrosion.
>> >
>>
>>
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