Thanks Don,

We were fogged over the last time we went out on the O'Day a few weeks
ago.  It rolled over the islands just after we cleared the shipping channel
in Portland and didn't lift for a few hours. We sailed slowly by GPS and
with a keen lookout and nav lights on until it lifted.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:39 AM Donald Kern via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Jeff,
> A 40' is a big boat.  I own a 35' and have sailed and cruised 40' and 38'
> C&Cs.  Unless the boat is set up for two you will be spending some money so
> it will be manageable by two.  Because I sail on Narragansett Bay the wind
> (except mid Jul to mid Aug) comes in every afternoon at 12 to 15 kts which
> my wife finds to be too "tippy" for her liking.  Thus, I cruise with her
> aboard with only my rollerfurl (140%), main not used. Because my boat was
> modified for SORC racing it has a short boom and with main only is under
> powered and unbalanced.
> I have done cruises from Long Island sound to Bar Harbor and use to live
> in Harpswell ME, so am quite familiar with the ares you would most likely.
> Biggest advice I can give you for ME is make sure you have a good GPS
> system with a display that is visible from the helm - FOG is prevalent.  My
> 35' draws a little over 6' (again modified for racing) and have found that
> almost all harbors and marinas are reachable except the very ends of the ME
> inlets at low tide - aay-yup.  I have had the boat for 40 years and had
> nine kids grow up with her. The boat handles six adults (racing), cruise a
> week comfortably with four adults or two adults and a group of children
> (amount dependent on childs' sizes).  The boat was bought in Burlington VT
> and trucked to Narragansett Bay and with a six foot draft did have low
> bridge restrictions.
> My best advice is take your wife out on a sail on a similar sized C&C to
> make sure she is comfortable with the power of these boats. Beneteaus,
> Catalinas  and Hunters do not count as similar!  If the Admiral is not
> happy on the boat, you will not be happy.
>
> Don Kern
> *Fireball*, C&C 35 Mk2
> Bristol RI
>
> On 7/20/2020 10:08 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List wrote:
>
> If draft is an issue (or might be a future issue depending on your plans
> for cruising, etc.) I would consider the cb model.
>
> I have a 36 XL/kcb (your 40 ft C&C is actually a kcb since the cb retracts
> into a serious keel, unlike some cb boats that have boards only or very
> small keels) since I sail in the skinny NC sounds where a 5 ft draft is
> often the rule in marinas, not the exception.
>
> I Replace the pennant every 5 or so years and otherwise forgetaboutit!.
> Upwind, board down, it will point with or better than any others and
> downwind, board up, it will get up and go! OTOH, it likely has a weighted
> board which probably weighs over 1000 lbs. Unless you are racing, grinding
> the board up is not an easy job—I use a Lewmar 30 with 3:1 purchase AND my
> strongest crew to bring her up. Of course, as some have noted, it is a
> simple matter to pin it up permantly.
>
> Of course the kcb won’t be as fast as a deep keel of the same model (lots
> more wetted surface than a fin) but there probably isn’t any harbor in
> NH/ME that you could not get into, even at low tide, with the board up.
>
> Welcome to the list!
>
> Charlie Nelson
> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
> Water Phantom
>
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> On Monday, July 20, 2020, Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Allow me to first apologize for any ignorance we may suffer before I
> introduce our situation. I've been sailing all sorts of small craft for 35+
> years but this will be our first adventure in something no-longer
> trailerable.  I and my wife are shopping for an upgrade in size from our
> O'Day 23-2 and are attracted to the C&C line of boats given our budget, the
> perceived quality, performance/comfort reputation, and availability in the
> local market. We started eyeing a 35-3 in VT (and may still consider it)
> but after looking at a few 35' boats locally we are realizing they may
> still be a bit small for our rapidly growing family of four (and trucking
> and bottom painting a boat from VT to NH/ME seacoast adds a lot of costs),
> we have started looking at some C&C 40 boats in MA/RI  area. I'm not afraid
> of some small projects that can be carried out while we use it or in the
> offseason but not interested in a "project boat"  that would need work to
> be safe before use.
>
>
> https://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=3558367&checked_boats=3558367&hosturl=MattapoisettYachtSales&&ybw=&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=81236&url=
> https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1981-c-c-tall-rig-7442829/
>
> Now for the questions:
>
> We have scheduled the two 40's above for a visit next weekend, one we saw
> in the boatyard without invitation this weekend. They are both on the hard,
> and the one we briefly visited is a centerboard version. The other is a
> tall-rig/deep-keel.  See the photos linked.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/7xUVbSnHMob2YmYP8
>
> 1. On this boat, what is the drain in the keel for? Is it a bilge drain or
> a centerboard trunk vent? There was something, perhaps a piece of wood,
> loose inside the drain that I could move with a finger.
> 2. On cabin top starboard, there appears to be a wire cable winch that
> I've not seen on other examples. Is this the centerboard pendant perhaps?
> 3. Is the weeping from the centerboard pivot access ports reasonable or
> expected. It may be lubricant as the broker suggests it was somewhat
> recently serviced.
>
> Notes: The "smile" needs addressing but seems dry. Depth and knot log
> sensors have been painted over with antifoul despite being listed in the
> description as features. Gelcoat seems good for its age.
>
> We are leaning towards the centerboard model as the Marina we are
> targeting in Portland, ME has limited areas of draft to accommodate a 7.5'
> keel at low tide. However, fewer moving parts is a huge advantage as is
> better sailing performance. But, we might be forced into a less
> desirable marina or have a low tide +/- 1hr time block for coming or going
> from the marina.
>
> Last general question and ask for advice, what is the mast step situation
> on either of these boats and apart from waterlogged cores in the deck and
> hull, what are the critical points of interest to a new buyer that thinks
> he is somewhat savvy.
>
> All polite thoughts welcomed.
>
> Best regards,
> Jeff
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