Martin, Wow! wire in the luff đł this is for some serious conditions.
And the 5 500 km shipping cost would probably be more expensive than the sail... but thanks for the offer. Still waiting for a reply from my sailmaker, but I'm pretty sure the feedback will be similar to the one I received here. Bruno, on the right coast looking north EnvoyĂ© de mon iPad Le 6 avr. 2021 Ă 22:05, Martin DeYoung <martin.deyo...@outlook.com<mailto:martin.deyo...@outlook.com>> a Ă©crit : Bruno, I have a 2.2oz âchicken chuteâ with wire in the luff tapes packed away in Calypsoâs storage locker. I have not hoisted it but have stretched it out in a loft to evaluate its condition. My guess it was made by Hood back in the 70âs. It looks like a good used low mileage sail with limited UV exposure. It has very narrow shoulders and is small enough in square area it might be entertaining on a 33â boat. Let me know if you want to take it for a test sail. Based on other times/other boats when a wire luff chicken chute was called for I expect you would need a TWS of 25+ to get this sail to fly well. Of course, you break it, you bought it. Martin DeYoung Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle/Port Ludlow From: Bruno Lachance via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 4:07 PM To: Stus-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Bruno Lachance<mailto:bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com> Subject: Stus-List Re: Heavy spinnaker sizing vs medium/light for 33-2 Thank you all for the group wisdom. To be clear my plan was never to compensate the shorter length of the luff by not hoisting the chute to the masthead. I am fully aware of the consequences in higher winds. I have seen people do that before when the chute is on the smaller side in the attempts to have a fuller shape in light conditions. No big deal when it's light, but even then I really doubt it makes the boat faster. It sure looks bad! So back on deck. As a reference, I usually set my pole at about 18-20 inches higher that the boom, with a chute 3 ft shorter, i'm worried I would need to set the pole too high, but I thought maybe I could flat the sail a little and keep the pole lower than usual. Gybing with the pole too high does not look appealing neither. The seller is pretty far so impossible to have a look or confirm measures. He says the sail is 40.8 but he measures 44 " by hand" whatever that means. With a foot of 21.5, 40.8 makes more sense, so a tad short. Still tempted by the price...and It is appealing to keep my nice North AirX 600 crisp for racing. Bruno Lachance BĂ©cassine , 33-2 New-Richmond, Qc. EnvoyĂ© de mon iPad Le 6 avr. 2021 Ă 17:07, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a Ă©crit : Bruno, I tried what you are thinking about. It didnât work. Dennis is right, you do not want three feet of halyard swinging your chute around â it does not get pretty. And, if you have the pole hoisted up in the air to get the chute hoisted all the way, you have a higher center of effort for that chute and it will move around, which is what you donât want in heavy weather. The ultimate trick would be to have a separate halyard attached three feet down the mast just for that chute, but on our masthead boats, you will get all tangled up with the forestay. Sorry. Gary â 30-1 From: Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 3:56 PM To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com<mailto:capt...@gmail.com>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Heavy spinnaker sizing vs medium/light for 33-2 A heavy weather chute should have narrow shoulders. It should be fully hoisted. Failure to fully hoist in heavy weather will increase the potential for oscillation and loss of control. While we're on heavy weather spin flying, on Touche', we never ever let the center seam cross to the weather side of the forestay. That is, we prefer a slightly reaching trim as opposed to a dead downwind trim. Trimming the chute's center seam to weather of the forestay increases the chances of oscillation and ultimately a death roll. I'd rather broach than do a death roll! To answer the question, talk to your sailmaker. This chute sounds a wee bit short to me. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 11:22 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Bruno, Sounds about right. Just don't hoist the chute to the masthead. Joel On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 10:42 AM Bruno Lachance via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Question for the spinnaker gurus of the group: The light/medium sym spinfor my 33-2 has a luff/leech lenght of 44 ft and a foot of 23.3 ft. This is a sail designed for this boat I'm looking at a used spin that seems to be a heavier cloth, that would be used as a S-3. The dimensions are Luff: 40.8 / foot: 21.5 Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.paypal.me%2Fstumurray&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cb8ba47240d9d43af5ec408d8f950c728%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637533472619103331%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=SB%2BGys%2FWx7%2FAHO%2FfQrLS8GLkTzzvjQqPKn0OJ5QJdx8%3D&reserved=0> Thanks - Stu
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