Bruno Ask him what type of boat the sail was made for. That should give you a better idea of the dimensions
We were gifted a Mumm 36 spinnaker this past winter. The Frers 33 and C&C 33-2 have almost identical foretriangle so this is a similar situation to the one you are looking at. Frers is I=45, J=13.33 where the Mumm is fractional spin at I=43.7 J=12.6 This spin will be a bit short on the hoist but not 3 feet. Also a bit narrow. Should work a s a decent backup spinnaker for Persistence and may be useful on windier days. 2 days til launch! (eat that Bob!) Mike Hoyt Persistence Halifax, NS www.hoytsailing.com From: Bruno Lachance via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: April 6, 2021 8:07 PM To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Bruno Lachance <bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com> Subject: Stus-List Re: Heavy spinnaker sizing vs medium/light for 33-2 Thank you all for the group wisdom. To be clear my plan was never to compensate the shorter length of the luff by not hoisting the chute to the masthead. I am fully aware of the consequences in higher winds. I have seen people do that before when the chute is on the smaller side in the attempts to have a fuller shape in light conditions. No big deal when it's light, but even then I really doubt it makes the boat faster. It sure looks bad! So back on deck. As a reference, I usually set my pole at about 18-20 inches higher that the boom, with a chute 3 ft shorter, i'm worried I would need to set the pole too high, but I thought maybe I could flat the sail a little and keep the pole lower than usual. Gybing with the pole too high does not look appealing neither. The seller is pretty far so impossible to have a look or confirm measures. He says the sail is 40.8 but he measures 44 " by hand" whatever that means. With a foot of 21.5, 40.8 makes more sense, so a tad short. Still tempted by the price...and It is appealing to keep my nice North AirX 600 crisp for racing. Bruno Lachance Bécassine , 33-2 New-Richmond, Qc. Envoyé de mon iPad Le 6 avr. 2021 à 17:07, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit : Bruno, I tried what you are thinking about. It didn’t work. Dennis is right, you do not want three feet of halyard swinging your chute around – it does not get pretty. And, if you have the pole hoisted up in the air to get the chute hoisted all the way, you have a higher center of effort for that chute and it will move around, which is what you don’t want in heavy weather. The ultimate trick would be to have a separate halyard attached three feet down the mast just for that chute, but on our masthead boats, you will get all tangled up with the forestay. Sorry. Gary – 30-1 From: Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: Tuesday, April 6, 2021 3:56 PM To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Cc: Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com<mailto:capt...@gmail.com>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Heavy spinnaker sizing vs medium/light for 33-2 A heavy weather chute should have narrow shoulders. It should be fully hoisted. Failure to fully hoist in heavy weather will increase the potential for oscillation and loss of control. While we're on heavy weather spin flying, on Touche', we never ever let the center seam cross to the weather side of the forestay. That is, we prefer a slightly reaching trim as opposed to a dead downwind trim. Trimming the chute's center seam to weather of the forestay increases the chances of oscillation and ultimately a death roll. I'd rather broach than do a death roll! To answer the question, talk to your sailmaker. This chute sounds a wee bit short to me. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 11:22 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Bruno, Sounds about right. Just don't hoist the chute to the masthead. Joel On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 10:42 AM Bruno Lachance via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Question for the spinnaker gurus of the group: The light/medium sym spinfor my 33-2 has a luff/leech lenght of 44 ft and a foot of 23.3 ft. This is a sail designed for this boat I'm looking at a used spin that seems to be a heavier cloth, that would be used as a S-3. The dimensions are Luff: 40.8 / foot: 21.5 Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu