Richard:
Not right this minute, but sure. What’s your direct e-mail address? Stu’s
site doesn’t do photos.
As I understand it, there were two Baltic 42s: the older one was a sistership
hull of my boat; the newer one looked more IOR. I’ve been around long enough
to have observed C&C’s evolution from more swept back keels (e.g., original C&C
33, 35, 39) to later models with IOR-style keels (more vertical). It’s like
looking at the evolution from monkeys to humans – later keels are more upright.
The 42 Custom started to straighten out the keel, but it’s more swept back
than the 34 and 36 that came out in the late-70s. The deck is mostly flush but
has “go fast” windows. The Admiral wishes it had more/bigger windows. Despite
the mostly flush deck, there is ample headroom down below due to the large
freeboard. She is an imposing boat for a 42, and still a bit of a head-turner.
My boat was the pride of the Mentor Harbor Yacht Club when I raced against her
as a kid.
Rob:
I had a funny feeling you were involved with this boat. Rob
Ball said he designed the steering system (along with other things, no doubt).
I understand that of the six that were made, five are still in regular use.
One was being sold out of Chicago a couple years ago.
Glad to hear you made it back home safe and sound. I look forward to seeing
you this summer (assuming Trudeau and Biden wise up).
Matt
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Rob and Matt; thank you for sharing the history of these boats; in viewing the
42 on the photo album, they look like very different boats from the 41s; on
sailboat data.com, they show the flushdeck model only, (the Christopher
Dragon?), and a reference to the Baltic 42s, which , of course used the hull;
this is fascinating: Mat can you share some photos of your 42?
Thanks again!
Richard
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Hi Matt,
Good to hear from you.
Very much involved. The 42 was a development of the 1975 Canada's Cup
challenger Marauder which lost to Golden Dazy. I was Project Manager for
Marauder and also crewed aboard her for the Two Ton Worlds and the Canada's Cup
racing in Detroit. The flush decked Christopher Dragon was a Custom Shop
production version of Marauder. I was also project manager on that boat as
well, I think. I sailed Bermuda Races and Long Island Sound races aboard her
with Butch Ulmer. I also sailed aboard Keith Burley's C&C 42 Genevieve out of
RHYC. I remember going into a spreaders in the water broach on that boat in the
middle of a spinnaker peel on Burlington Bay! Genevieve is now at the Prince
Edward Yacht Club in Picton, ON.
So, yes, some involvements with 42s. ;-)
I have the Barient 23 self-tailers on our dining room table, but probably won't
disassemble them until Trillium gets uncovered.
Take care, and I look forward to seeing you sometime this summer in Port Dover.
Rob
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 1:04 PM Matthew via CnC-List <
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Rob:
I may have asked you previously, but were you involved with the
42 Custom. Six were produced in or about 1976. I believe mine was the last.
Matt
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The building on Wallace Road, which was diagonally opposite the later building
on Speers Road, became the C&C Sales Office and Showroom for a while before the
short lived showroom was built as part of the office complex in Port Credit.
The Speers Road building housed a valve plant before it was acquired and
greatly enlarged by the C&C Custom division. I started work in that plant
building Redline 25s under Mike Houndslow. That must have been in 1969 because
Manitou, True North, Bagatelle, and Red Jacket were in the shop at the time.
Rob
On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 7:10 AM JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List <
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Found a reference to 1492 Wallace Road. It’s a different building…. Will have
to research more
JKC
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> On Mar 17, 2022, at 6:33 AM, JohnKelly Cuthbertson <
> <mailto:j...@motiondesignslimited.com> j...@motiondesignslimited.com> wrote:
>
> From Google earth I can see the building is still there. But my history
> says they moved to Wallace Rd. before Speers, what I don’t know is if it was
> a different building on Wallace or because this one, at the corner of Wallace
> and Speers, my source meant this one…. Hmmm
>
> JKC
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