So, what you are saying Matt, since I was the one steering when we went
into that broach on Burlington Bay, that it wasn't my fault! Thank you for
that reassurance 40 years after the fact. ;-)

However, all those masthead rigged IOR boats were a handful off the wind.
However, I remember pegging the speedo at 20 knots on *Marauder* with the
#2 hoisted on the pole in over 30 knots of breeze during the middle
distance race in Canada's Cup. The bow wave was breaking at the
chainplates. I'd attach a photo taken of the crew at that point but know
how that gets held up for approval.

Rob

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 2:35 PM Matthew <wolf...@erie.net> wrote:

> One other thing I failed to mention: we’ve had two massive knockdowns with
> the big chute up crossing Lake Erie.  The boat is hard to control downwind
> in 20+ knots with quartering seas, and it’s difficult to recover from a
> knockdown with all that sail up.  A wave removed the wind instruments from
> the masthead during one of them.  I learned the meaning of “samurai douse.”
>
>
>
> *From:* Robert Mazza <robertlma...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2022 1:29 PM
> *To:* Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Cc:* Matthew <wolf...@erie.net>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Re: While we wait for spring
>
>
>
> Hi Matt,
>
>
>
> Good to hear from you.
>
>
>
> Very much involved. The 42 was a development of the 1975 Canada's Cup
> challenger *Marauder* which lost to *Golden Dazy*. I was Project Manager
> for *Marauder* and also crewed aboard her for the Two Ton Worlds and the
> Canada's Cup racing in Detroit.  The flush decked *Christopher Dragon*
> was a Custom Shop production version of *Marauder.* I was also project
> manager on that boat as well, I think. I sailed Bermuda Races and Long
> Island Sound races aboard her with Butch Ulmer. I also sailed aboard Keith
> Burley's C&C 42 *Genevieve* out of RHYC. I remember going into a
> spreaders in the water broach on that boat in the middle of a spinnaker
> peel on Burlington Bay! *Genevieve* is now at the Prince Edward Yacht
> Club in Picton, ON.
>
>
>
> So, yes, some involvements with 42s. ;-)
>
>
>
> I have the Barient 23 self-tailers on our dining room table, but probably
> won't disassemble them until *Trillium *gets uncovered.
>
>
>
> Take care, and I look forward to seeing you sometime this summer in Port
> Dover.
>
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 1:04 PM Matthew via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Rob:
>
>
>
>                 I may have asked you previously, but were you involved
> with the 42 Custom.  Six were produced in or about 1976.  I believe mine
> was the last.
>
>
>
>                 Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* Robert Mazza via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 17, 2022 11:22 AM
> *To:* Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Cc:* Robert Mazza <robertlma...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: While we wait for spring
>
>
>
> The building on Wallace Road, which was diagonally opposite the later
> building on Speers Road, became the C&C Sales Office and Showroom for a
> while before the short lived showroom was built as part of the office
> complex in Port Credit. The Speers Road building housed a valve plant
> before it was acquired and greatly enlarged by the C&C Custom division. I
> started work in that plant building Redline 25s under Mike Houndslow. That
> must have been in 1969 because *Manitou, True North, Bagatelle*, and *Red
> Jacket* were in the shop at the time.
>
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 7:10 AM JohnKelly Cuthbertson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Found a reference to 1492 Wallace Road.   It’s a different building…. Will
> have to research more
>
> JKC
>
> Motion Designs Limited
> 647 990 7752
>
> > On Mar 17, 2022, at 6:33 AM, JohnKelly Cuthbertson <
> j...@motiondesignslimited.com> wrote:
> >
> > From Google earth I can see the building is still there.   But my
> history says they moved to Wallace Rd. before Speers, what I don’t know is
> if it was a different building on Wallace or because this one, at the
> corner of Wallace and Speers, my source meant this one…. Hmmm
> >
> > JKC
> Please trim your messages before sending to the list.  Thankx
>
> Please trim your messages before sending to the list.  Thankx
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>
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