>>
1.) www.cocoondev.org
This is a great site but i expected this under cocoon!
<<
And soon it may well be. Remember the Cocoon project is an _Apache_ project
and therefore runs on Apache hardware etc. etc. The cocoondev.org site is
completely different. It was started by Steven Noels from Outerthought as
somewhere to showcase Cocoon based solutions. One day it will hopefully all
be together - but at the moment they are completely different things.
>>
2.) http://www.orbeon.com/oxf/
i found this pointer today in the struts discussion trail. I did not
really investigate on this although it sounds quite interesting
but again i thought this belongs strongly to cocoon, if it is
feasible...
<<
Again something completely different. A solution built on Cocoon - but it is
NOT Cocoon. In the same way we develop commercial products on top of
Cocoon - but they are not part of the Cocoon project. Anything that is
donated to the Cocoon project (such as our authentication components)
increases the code base and that does (or may) become part of the project.
>>
Sorry again. I did not mean cocoon is cluttered around! I even did not want
to criticise anybody. i only mentioned there seems to be lots of work done
"around cocoon" which from my point of view looks very interesting, but is
simply not under the umbrella of cocoon itself. So i.e. if i want to go into
such a component, i fear that i must leave the core cocoon... clearly
something to be avoided! Instead i ask again, why don't they come under the
cocoon umbrella and let all cocoon users participate without pain...
<<
Because the objectives may be very different. Some of the developments are
commercial built on top of Cocoon. Some are open source (like CocoBlog)
built on top of Cocoon and some are infrastructures (like cocoondev). At the
moment (because of the status of the Cocoon project) it is not possible to
easily have everything in one place. This is something that is currently
being pushed by the Cocoon project for the near future (at least as far as
the open source solutions go).
HTH
Matthew
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Sorry again. I did not mean cocoon is cluttered around! I even did not want
to criticise anybody. i only mentioned there seems to be lots of work done
"around cocoon" which from my point of view looks very interesting, but is
simply not under the umbrella of cocoon itself. So i.e. if i want to go into
such a component, i fear that i must leave the core cocoon... clearly
something to be avoided! Instead i ask again, why don't they come under the
cocoon umbrella and let all cocoon users participate without pain...
It's simply me, who is a bit confused, i didn't want to confuse you ;-) i
would only like to understand, why these "parallel projects" exist... I mean
if you look at tomcat, or the apache server, you will find add ons (like
SSL), plugins (myriads) and so, but not parallel development...)
regards, hussayn
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous [mailto:dabbous@;saxess.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:32 PM
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> Subject: cocoon and related projects based on cocoon ...
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>
> I asked this within another thread, but since it does not belong there, i
> post it again under a new title:
>
> I am a bit confused. I'm following the discussons in this mailing list for
> about a week now and i found at least two other products/components
> (whatever) mentioned in the various emails which claim to be an on top of
> cocoon development.
>
> Despite that all this stuff sounds very interesting, i for myself get more
> and more unshure how to proceed with my investigations on cocoon. Some
> questions rise in my mind:
>
> 1.) Why are all such nice and nifty add ons developed all outside of
cocoon
> ?
> 2.) When i move to such an add on component, how can i enshure to keep up
> with the releases of cocoon (taking advantage of the enhancements done by
> the cocoon developers)?
> 3.) Why can't i find pointers to the mentioned add ons from within the the
> cocoon pages ?
>
> There is sooo many good software around the world and cocoon for me is one
> of the finest. Why does not all this effort take place at the heart but is
> cluttered around in several loosely coupled or even uncoupled add on
> projects ???
>
> regards, Hussayn
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