I'm  a Maven newbie (though I generally like it), but I agree totally. I
really think that all projects should support Ant and Maven. I would hate to
lose the ability to go down the Ant route whenever I want/need to. Again, I
like Maven, but I generally find Ant much less problematic - probably down
to my lack of experience with the tool.

Cheers,
Rory


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark R. Diggory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [general] Do we need to support Ant based builds?


> Again, its important that a Commons project support both ant and maven.
> Use the project template directory to build new projects, maven is
> required to build your sub-projects site, I recommend that new projects
> use Maven's ant build.xml generation task to maintain the projects
> build.xml, this build.xml contains tasks that are used by Craigs nightly
> build script to generate the nightly snapshot. Legacy projects that have
> their own ant build.xml files are just fine and should continue to be
> maintained.
>
> We should use both routes.
>
> -Mark
>
> Eric Pugh wrote:
> > Okay..  well, it sounds like the consensus is that Ant support is a Good
> > Idea, so we'll keep it..  I'll play around with adding the Ant
generation
> > task to maybe our maven site goal so that we keep it up to date..
Mostly
> > it's just an issue of keeping the script up to date with the Maven
build..
> > Dependencies seem to get out of sync quite easily!
> >
> > Currently, the build is quite simple, and the maven ant plugin works
fine
> > for everything, so we'll keep it up to date!
> >
> > Thanks for all the feedback!
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 11:17 AM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: [general] Do we need to support Ant based builds?
> >>
> >>
> >>On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Dion Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>C'mon, that one doesn't even run tests!
> >>
> >>8-)
> >>
> >>At least it has a bunch of dependencies, that's what non-trivial meant
> >>in my mail.
> >>
> >><http://brutus.apache.org/gump/public/db-commons-sandbox/db-common
> >>s-grafolia/gump_work/build_db-commons-sandbox_db-commons-grafolia.html>
> >>does run unit tests.
> >>
> >>Hmm, in
> >><http://brutus.apache.org/gump/public/excalibur/excalibur-thread-i
> >>mpl/gump_work/build_excalibur_excalibur-thread-impl.html>
> >>the unit tests fail to compile even though the project lists a
> >>dependency on JUnit, while Grafolia (which works) does not declare
> >>such a dependency.
> >>
> >>We really need help from people who understand Maven better than I do
> >>to take the final steps.  It seems we are pretty close.  Want to come
> >>over to [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dion?
> >>
> >>Stefan
> >>
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