That is a noble goal, and I support this goal, although I do not think that an organized soapbox is the right way to do this. The short little "here's the link to my homepage, oh and I work on this and that project" pages are great. Anything other than that is off limits in my book.


No one has proposed those be removed.


I'm interested in bringing others closer to the community whom currently do regard it as some kind of "star chamber". .(I'd say thats the prevalent view) I notice a lot of folks share these views, but I can tell there is a whole other side whom hold the exact opposite opinion.


If having a homepage on apache.org becomes one of the valued privileges
one gets after being accepted into the ASF, then we will only be replacing
the star chamber with an ivory tower (with a megaphone).

All committers have access to create a "homepage" already.


As others have said earlier in this discussion, this does not further the goals of the ASF.

I disagree.


Woah there! The word "open" is an extremely loaded word in real-life to begin with. You can't possibly address a group of people who write "open source software" and divide this discussion on these lines.

By the mere fact that anyone who is interested in software development
within the ASF may join this mailing list and /openly/ discuss this and
other topics means that we are all part of an open forum. I do not think
it is fair to shun everyone who doesn't agree with your opinions
on the creation of a community.apache.org website as "closed".

This is my opinion. So far every issue I've seen discussed here has been pretty evenly
polarized between the "more open" and "less open".. You could almost assign ideological
political parties. (though I think that would be a negative development)



Nobody here is saying that people can't have their homepages or blogs, they're just saying not to do it on an apache.org website.

But THAT is not the topic at hand. You can already do this. No one has actually proposed taking
that right away. Just creating an alias.


Let me rephrase the proposal in a way that would have been accepted.

"Create a DNS Alias called community.apache.org so that people don't confuse the existing and new
Apache memeber/committer homepages with Official ASF pages" (if there is such a thing)


The homepages are there and growing...deal with it. The DNS alias is ANOTHER issue that can be
of advantage on both sides of the isle.


-Andy


-aaron


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