On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Steven Noels wrote:

> Stefano's insightful post got me carried away to run some stats on
> members & projects: http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/archives/001008.html

I've always stopped short of doing just this; and more kept things limited
to a pie diagram and postings/#of commits.

This as it mostly shows 'today' rather than the members body which grew
over time and is effectively lagging. I.e. you are looking at data which
tells you more about history than about the future. And that todays future
is tomorrows history.

> Please comment if you care, but keep the thread on community (or
> cocoon-dev). I'd love to hear your opinion.

My main interpretation is

->      We are tremendously dynamic in terms of ratio's and
        relative numbers; things turn upside down regulary.

->      xml and java are 75% of the activity; the 'old school'
        has dropped below 20% now (Ignoring PHP here).

->      Despite the enourmous influx of java and xml the ASF
        as a whole is growing significantly slower than the internet.

->      Documentation is growing even slower; even including
        translations.

->      Organisationally xml and java are still lagging behind;
        but have been catching up (though the catch up has slowed down
        somewhat due to a much larger influx from the old school
        side; and that influx is by average younger than the proposed
        influx from xml and java (in terms of lines of code and/or years
        of activity on *MORE* than one project).

->      Java (and to a lesser extend xml) is _actively_ under
        represented and produces less orgaisational/infrastructure/legal
        people than one would expect given the current relative number of
        existing java/xml folks in organisational positions. That may
        be a cultural thing.

->      In the java, and to some extend the xml world, we have much, much
        much more code which was only touched 1-4 times by <= 2 people
        over time.

->      the java world seems to need amazing number of indians (or
        committers) relative to lines of codes or bugs fixed. And seems
        to see more isolated pockets of people than the xml and other
        parts of the ASF.

Just for thoughd (and the above was taken from a 2002 count; it may be off
now).

Dw




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