on 6/26/03 6:46 AM Santiago Gala wrote: > Stefano Mazzocchi escribió: > >>on 6/24/03 6:59 AM Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: >> >> >> >>>>I think that we have multiple subcultures under the ASF umbrella, due to >>>>the way that the umbrella projects were formed. Whether you like that >>>>or not, I think that is the reality. I know that I personally would >>> >>>And I think that is a healty thing. It makes us more resiliant and self >>>supporting in a changing world. I certainly do not thing that 'enforcing' >>>the patterns of 'httpd' are a good idea. >> >> >>I agree, also because I'm not so sure that the patterns of "httpd" are >>necessarely the best ones. I believe that the java.apache.org-originated >>culture of a lower bar for committership created the explosive growth of >>jakarta and xml. Something that the HTTPd culture fails to identify as a >>value, but it might well be from a purely darwinistical perspective, >>because it allows more noise and mutations to enter the system, thus >>improving the ability to adapt to environmental changes. > > This, I think, is the other side of WORA at work. Your criticism of it > does not show that WORA (or, really, the Java VM architecture) allows > for a lot more safety to experiment than native architectures. > > I still feel shocked when I (rarely) see a JavaVM crash with a seg fault > (out of memory always, maybe some beta JDK at times). The safety of the > JavaVM contrasts a lot with the dangers of C/C++ environments, and makes > it compelling to write a java alternative even when good native > libraries do exist. This is the viral character of it.
Hey, don't forget that, despite my criticism on the java monoculture, I remain a java fan. I just opened up my views to other languages (expecially scripting ones) since I think that java falls short in many situations. > I wonder is > "parrot" will do the same for perl/python/ruby. uh? wasn't "parrot" an april's fool joke? -- Stefano. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
